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Re: Ask HN: Developers with ADHD/ADD, how do you cope?

#11
Pro-Tip: when you get a medication, make sure you're prepared to be doing something productive after you take it, otherwise you may end up browsing social media with a sense of focus like never before.

Also, invest time in learning how to stay hydrated. I got terrible dry mouth when I took adderall.

Also also, set alarms during productivity time to get up and walk around otherwise you will forget. For me, this caused me to get swelling in my lower legs a bit, which I think was due to a combination of sitting and no longer tapping my feet.

Re: Ask HN: Developers with ADHD/ADD, how do you cope?

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Lists, logs, writing, post-its, Todo lists etcetcetc. I tend to forget stuff even while I'm doing it, so it helps a million if what I'm doing is written on a Post-It right in front of me. Also, to keep track of tasks, problems, todos etc, I have a huge text file that is bound to the ctrl-` keybinding (autohotkey script opens a file in sublime text). I think the most important thing is to externalize your mind into yo…

> Russel Barkley

Some of his claims are questionable. AFAIR he claims that:

- ADHD has no advantages

- ADHD has a negative effect on working memory

- ADHD has no negative effect on intelligence

Since working memory is a factor in intelligence, one of these statements must be false.

His political views are also interesting.

> Barkley is a right-wing libertarian. He deeply believes in "Limited government, individual rights, freedom of speech and association, and the nonaggression principle (no one, including the government, has a right to initiate force or fraud against another), and private property rights". He has attacked "the leftist, social democratic or socialist leanings of Facebook's founder and most mainstream media outlets".[35]

I'm not mentioning this to discredit him or because I think you should judge a psychologists by his political views. But I've always associated these views with the assumption that poor people are generally poor not because they don't have the skills, self-discipline etc. needed to be successful but because they are lazy and thus don't deserve welfare. If Barkley, an ADHD researcher, actually believes that he's very good at tolerating cognitive dissonance.

Re: Ask HN: Developers with ADHD/ADD, how do you cope?

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I don't take any medication for it, but music can help, and over the years, I've gotten better at focusing by simply willing myself to do it. There are definitely a lot of days when I'll end up blankly staring at my screen for an hour while my mind runs through a bunch of unrelated information, but I'm stubborn and have been able to push through this the majority of the time.

I also try to always write down a task so I don't forget it later. For my own personal projects, I like to use Trello to organize my tasks and plan out what I need to work on for the next release.

I can definitely understand the difficulty to focus on something you're not interested in. Maybe you could try listening to a podcast or something about something you ARE interested in while working? Depends on how bad the ADD is, because for me, I would end up completely focusing on that and tuning out my actual work.

Also, if you're seriously trying to work on something and it's usually an issue for you, put your phone somewhere where you won't be constantly reaching for it.

Re: Ask HN: Developers with ADHD/ADD, how do you cope?

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post #10

Lists, logs, writing, post-its, Todo lists etcetcetc. I tend to forget stuff even while I'm doing it, so it helps a million if what I'm doing is written on a Post-It right in front of me. Also, to keep track of tasks, problems, todos etc, I have a huge text file that is bound to the ctrl-` keybinding (autohotkey script opens a file in sublime text). I think the most important thing is to externalize your mind into yo…

> Russel Barkley Some of his claims are questionable. AFAIR he claims that: - ADHD has no advantages - ADHD has a negative effect on working memory - ADHD has no negative effect on intelligence Since working memory is a factor in intelligence, one of these statements must be false. His political views are also interesting. > Barkley is a right-wing libertarian. He deeply believes in "Limited government, individual ri…

You mention this ad hominem so you can extrapolate beliefs that may be completely fabricated.

Re: Ask HN: Developers with ADHD/ADD, how do you cope?

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Russel Barkley Some of his claims are questionable. AFAIR he claims that: - ADHD has no advantages - ADHD has a negative effect on working memory - ADHD has no negative effect on intelligence Since working memory is a factor in intelligence, one of these statements must be false. His political views are also interesting. > Barkley is a right-wing libertarian. He deeply believes in "Limited government, individual ri…

You mention this ad hominem so you can extrapolate beliefs that may be completely fabricated.

Why do you try to read my mind? It violates the laws of physics and I explicitly wrote why I mentioned his political views. I don't think he has the views I extrapolated, which is why I wonder why he has the ones he says he has.

Re: Ask HN: Developers with ADHD/ADD, how do you cope?

#17
First off: Diagnosis and medication access is one thing, but maintenance is another key — find a psychiatrist or physician who you get on with well and can work with for a good long while.

Other tips:

* Use hyper-focus when you have it, to the best of your ability. I think of it like a gift from my brain, and I try to get the most mileage out of it as possible, even if the task I’m working on isn’t top priority.

* Focus on building good habits. I find it’s a way to trick my brain into doing things that are good for me.

* For meetings, have someone(s) who you can check in with about what’s been discussed. Ideally, someone who you can say “hey, I didn’t quite follow what happened — what are the key points?”

* Strong agreement with other folks on using task management systems. My general recommendation is to find one you like (Getting Things Done is my favorite, but there are no shortage of others) try it out for a good long while (2+ months), and slowly adapt it to your personal needs.

* Talk to your people manager about work you’ve been assigned to that you’re not interested in. Sometimes you’re really needed in a particular area and other times you’re not. If you express your preferences for particular types of work, you’re more likely to get it.

Re: Ask HN: Developers with ADHD/ADD, how do you cope?

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If you're not taking medication like adderal or ritalin, or you can't be bothered to receive a diagnosis, try caffeine and perhaps look into nootropics. I haven't taken medication since I graduated school and could decide for myself, but the caffeine and nootropics work really well. You might need music or some sort of background noise that won't distract you. Simple checklists can help you move through daily tasks. You also need to be interested in whatever you're doing to help you focus. If your job doesn't interest you, it will be rough.

I think there are a few varieties of attention deficit, I don't know anything about being physically hyperactive, just the inattentive part.

Re: Ask HN: Developers with ADHD/ADD, how do you cope?

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post #10

Lists, logs, writing, post-its, Todo lists etcetcetc. I tend to forget stuff even while I'm doing it, so it helps a million if what I'm doing is written on a Post-It right in front of me. Also, to keep track of tasks, problems, todos etc, I have a huge text file that is bound to the ctrl-` keybinding (autohotkey script opens a file in sublime text). I think the most important thing is to externalize your mind into yo…

> Russel Barkley Some of his claims are questionable. AFAIR he claims that: - ADHD has no advantages - ADHD has a negative effect on working memory - ADHD has no negative effect on intelligence Since working memory is a factor in intelligence, one of these statements must be false. His political views are also interesting. > Barkley is a right-wing libertarian. He deeply believes in "Limited government, individual ri…

I have never looked into his political beliefs, and I don't care for it either. He has been a massive help for me in managing my symptoms, and helping me see how my brain works, and why I keep falling on my head in certain areas.

I also think it's important to mention, Barkley has a very large emotional stake in his research, his brother had ADHD, and he died in a car accident.

I won't try to guess the influence of this incident on Barkley, but I can only think that Barkley "hates" ADHD for this reason (ie, ADHD has no advantages), and I think it becomes clearer why he is so immensely focused on the negative aspects of ADHD.

I won't comment on his stance on intelligence or memory.

Re: Ask HN: Developers with ADHD/ADD, how do you cope?

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Russel Barkley Some of his claims are questionable. AFAIR he claims that: - ADHD has no advantages - ADHD has a negative effect on working memory - ADHD has no negative effect on intelligence Since working memory is a factor in intelligence, one of these statements must be false. His political views are also interesting. > Barkley is a right-wing libertarian. He deeply believes in "Limited government, individual ri…

I have never looked into his political beliefs, and I don't care for it either. He has been a massive help for me in managing my symptoms, and helping me see how my brain works, and why I keep falling on my head in certain areas. I also think it's important to mention, Barkley has a very large emotional stake in his research, his brother had ADHD, and he died in a car accident. I won't try to guess the influence of t…

> I have never looked into his political beliefs, and I don't care for it either. He has been a massive help for me in managing my symptoms, and helping me see how my brain works, and why I keep falling on my head in certain areas.

Absolutely! I don't really care that he has these views either, I was just surprised.

> I won't try to guess the influence of this incident on Barkley, but I can only think that Barkley "hates" ADHD for this reason (ie, ADHD has no advantages), and I think it becomes clearer why he is so immensely focused on the negative aspects of ADHD.

Definitely. I think his belief that ADHD has no advantages probably stems from emotions, not from logic (although I'm sure he rationalises it)

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