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Re: A Revolution in Your Pocket

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Post by lucasverra »

awinder wrote: post #25
mwcampbell wrote: post #15

I noticed that the word "battery" doesn't appear anywhere in this post. Isn't conserving battery power one reason why we delegate so much to central services? That said, I think the wireless routers that a lot of us have in our homes could play an important role in this kind of decentralized Internet. They'd need to have more computing power than many wireless routers do, but that's OK because they're already plugged…

That vision is definitely being explored, not necessarily built into the router but usually as network attached appliances for some kind of “local cloud” (idk marketing). Syncloud & antsle are some Ive seen on the device side, and usually they run owncloud or nextcloud plus other “apps” The problem is from a reliability standpoint running stuff at home can be not great. Home network quality / reliability is not going…

there was a proposal ~10years ago on that https://fon.com/

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Post by TeMPOraL »

theamk wrote: post #60
fit2rule wrote: post #58

I really wish the OS vendors weren't asleep at the wheel on this one, or otherwise being distracted by the effort to just 'move everything to the cloud'. Imagine if we had an OS that solved the usability problems of IPFS and made it immensely easy to publish content on ones own named segment of an IPFS network - instead of having things like Dropbox glom themselves around a paltry excuse for file-sharing system servi…

Btw, "OFF SWITCH" is fundamentally incompatible with IPFS. If you serve your website from IPFS, the first visitor will get the full copy and start serving it. You can toggle your switch as much as you want, this won't have any effect. It's funny that Facebook is much better at giving control to user than email. At least in Facebook, you can delete post. And once you send email, there is no way to retract it.

> It's funny that Facebook is much better at giving control to user than email. At least in Facebook, you can delete post. And once you send email, there is no way to retract it.

This is hitting straight into data ownership question. As a sender, I might want the ability to retract a message I sent. As a receiver, however, I do not want the sender to have that ability. Once a message reaches my inbox, I want to own it.

I'm strongly on the receiver side on this one. This is how it works in meatspace - once you send a message, you can't unsend it; it belongs to the transport layer and then to the receiver.

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Post by fnord77 »

RodgerTheGreat wrote: post #6

I'm definitely sympathetic to the ideas described in this article. I strongly feel that software should be designed to serve the interests of users, and running locally is structurally necessary to accomplish this. For some applications, it seems plausible that mesh networking and cooperative routing could potentially replace centralized communications infrastructure. It's probably OK if an email takes half an hour o…

I think the author has done little or no mobile development - battery life isn't even brought up. Sure the latest phone might be in some ways as powerful as a 10 year old laptop when the hardware is in a high performance mode, but running a mobile device full-tilt is going to drain the battery very, very quickly.

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Post by FerretFred »

This article really resonated with me. I rarely use my Android phone for talking to people, and the apps and setup are geared to getting work done securely and with as much privacy as possible. I seem to spend a lot of time tweaking settings to stop Google trying to run my life and monitoring me. Overall, I have a good experience but I really wish I didn't have to keep fighting my phone!

What would really make a difference (to me at least) would be a libre phone/OS. Yes, I know these are available but I can't afford them. What we need is a freedom-minded philanthropist to step in and Save The World. Once we have a more private phone then surely privacy-designed systems could flourish, as the author describes. If that happened I'd be there like a bear!

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Post by kasbah »

FerretFred wrote: post #74

This article really resonated with me. I rarely use my Android phone for talking to people, and the apps and setup are geared to getting work done securely and with as much privacy as possible. I seem to spend a lot of time tweaking settings to stop Google trying to run my life and monitoring me. Overall, I have a good experience but I really wish I didn't have to keep fighting my phone! What would really make a diff…

I would suggest installing LineageOS on a supported phone and not installing any of the proprietary Google apps (play services, maps etc). I have been doing that for a number of years.

https://lineageos.org/

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Post by Kiro »

ggm wrote: post #30

This feels like a superset of the problem medical records management is in a digital age. There are the bits you need public. your anaphylaxis status. your advanced health directive with 'do not rescucitate' and your organ donation status. There are the bits you need semi public. You need a trained health professional in sexual health to know you have chlamydia, but its not relevant to a physio doing upper body work.…

> your mental health status adversely affects your employer insurance

This statement makes no sense in 99% of the countries in the world.

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Post by kristianc »

jcfrei wrote: post #40

This is an idea that keeps coming back every 2 years or so. While it is enticing to think about, these ideas never manifest into anything. With most decentralized projects there usually hasn't been a big enough financial incentive to execute them.

It's more about "What's in it for the user?" when you define user as "the majority of people from whom a device being 'decentralized' is not in and of itself attractive". If there was the demand for this, the VC money would come along soon enough.

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Post by paulcarroty »

kasbah wrote: post #75
FerretFred wrote: post #74

This article really resonated with me. I rarely use my Android phone for talking to people, and the apps and setup are geared to getting work done securely and with as much privacy as possible. I seem to spend a lot of time tweaking settings to stop Google trying to run my life and monitoring me. Overall, I have a good experience but I really wish I didn't have to keep fighting my phone! What would really make a diff…

I would suggest installing LineageOS on a supported phone and not installing any of the proprietary Google apps (play services, maps etc). I have been doing that for a number of years. https://lineageos.org/

LineageOS still use Google services, even without preinstalled google apps.

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Post by kasbah »

paulcarroty wrote: post #78
kasbah wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would suggest installing LineageOS on a supported phone and not installing any of the proprietary Google apps (play services, maps etc). I have been doing that for a number of years. https://lineageos.org/

LineageOS still use Google services, even without preinstalled google apps.

Which ones, do you have a link where I can read more about it?

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Post by rjsw »

8bitsrule wrote: post #41

A phone is good for talking to people. Don't need a computer for that. Much better audio (analog) would be a plus. I'd use a mobile-sized computer with no radios, just ethernet, USB (for a keyboard) and HDMI (monitor). Putting both in one package? just asking for troubles.

I have a Nokia 130 feature phone that has really good audio, and a 10" convertable tablet running Windows 10. Also have a 11" Pinebook.
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