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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by j7ake »

gilbetron wrote: post #74

After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

I think the craziest thing is that the newer macbooks have worse battery life than the 2015 macbooks.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by mvip »

Still on "MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2013)," which is probably my 5th Macbook Pro (or equivalent) Been waiting for ages for Apple to fix their shit with the keyboard and make 32GB RAM an option for the 13". Hell will probably freeze over before any of that happens. Most likely, I'll have to get a desktop Mac and a Linux laptop.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by dharma1 »

scarface74 wrote: post #589
dharma1 wrote: post #434

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that's the theory, but in real life the macbook won't sustain 5ghz for very long at all, even less so with 8 cores. It simply can't get rid of the heat fast enough and throttles the speed to stay under thermal limits (while still toasting your balls). The situation isn't helped by the GPU inside the same slim mbpro chassis that also gets super hot, it's particularly bad when you run mixed CPU/GPU workloads like rende…

So for GPU intensive workloads at least, it seems to make more sense to get a lower spec’d laptop for the road and an external GPU as a docking station if you need the portability.

Definitely.

Apple has a couple of eGPUs they made with Blackmagic (AMD RX580 - you don't want this one - and Vega 56), very slick looking and silent but unfortunately GPUs not user upgradeable and not great value for money.

You can use most tb3 eGPU enclosures and an AMD GPU of your choice. Vega64 prob the best choice now, Navi around the corner, can't use NVidia at all thanks to Apple. It'll cost you less than the official Apple eGPU and the GPU will be upgradeable

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by lightbulbjim »

copperx wrote: post #840
aczerepinski wrote: post #287

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I upgraded from 2015 to 2018 at work recently and then went back to IT and asked if I could change my mind and trade back. The 2015 is nicer.

The 2018 model shouldn't be called an upgrade in any way.

I much prefer the touchpad. It's so nice being able to click the top part easily.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

jordache wrote: post #783
kabdib wrote: post #721

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Just walk away from the Mac. Windows is perfectly viable for doing development, so is Linux. You can easily get a laptop that is cheaper and more reliable than a Macbook. About the only thing you'll be missing is a cool Apple sticker, but you can get those on eBay. Your wallet will thank you, and so will your fingers. A Macbook was a reasonable, even logical choice in 2012. Now, not so much. Apple can have me back if…

the touchpad performance on the mac is second to none. Can modern windows or linux come even close?

> Can modern windows or linux come even close?

The Surface line trackpads are extremely close and their keyboards actually surpass current Apple boards.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by rienbdj »

dzonga wrote: post #736
bluedino wrote: post #447

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I love Thinkpads but the trackpads, screen, and build quality leave a lot to be desired. Every Mac is the same level of assembly/quality but ThinkPads vary too much from one to another. The prices for the high-performance models are almost as high as Apple and the power bricks are actually bricks.

I have a t490 with 500 nit display. 100% ARGB / SRGB. I haven't seen any macbook display that's sharp. Btw I have a personal 2012 Retina Macbook pro & a 2018 Macbook pro that I use for work for frontend.

sure, but the trackpad criticism is still valid.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by morog »

cr0sh wrote: post #392
gilbetron wrote: post #74

After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

> I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 If you want a desktop experience that comes close to MacOS on Ubuntu, give Budgie Desktop a try; it's developed for Solus: https://github.com/solus-project/budgie-desktop ...but is available for Ubuntu - you can install it separately, or as it's own distro: https://ubuntubudgie.org/ Note that the 18.04 LTS will have the older version of Budgie and not the lat…

I've been running Ubuntu on my Latitude 6650 since new a couple years back. Unfortunately due to my company moving to Office365 fully, its no longer viable for a daily driver - mostly due to no support for Teams (except for a crappy broken web interface), Outlook & OneDrive.

Always had Windows available in Virtualbox, but its definitely slower & had endless audio issues with conferencing (you don't want to be the guy who always has sound problems)

Now switched to Windows 10 on a dual boot - which is much easier on the fan, laptop not running nearly as hot as switching between the GPU & onboard graphics is seamless. Despite decades of Linux experience (servers & desktop) I could never get Prime working properly to switch to onboard graphics when needed...wasted days of my life on this.

Despite this Ubuntu 19.04 has big improvements in driver support & if it wasn't for Office, I would have gladly stayed on Linux.

Now its Kali in Virtualbox for me which is almost as good as running natively.

Windows has better toolbar management, mouseovers & switching between apps. Also since Ubuntu moved back to Gnome, switching between Virtualbox VMs has been buggy (display driver issues no doubt)

Linux has a better file browsers (windows explorer hasn't changed in a decade, no tabs & looks terrible) & much better terminal options.

I'll miss Linux as my daily OS, but I guess MS has its grip tightly on most organizations balls these days.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by auggierose »

Got the 6-core one a few months ago, what a great machine. I love the 4 usb-c ports that can turn into anything I want. I like the Touch Bar, the only question is why I cannot get this for my iMac Pro as well. The keyboard is very nice to type on. It is a super fast machine. Love the screen. And with AppleCare plus, I am not afraid of components failing. Stop the whining, bitches.

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Post by wlll »

burtonator wrote: post #450
cletus wrote: post #125

What a clusterF is modern Mac hardware: - Keyboards with much worse action that are more prone to failure (from dust no less) and require replacing the motherboard to fix... all for a Touchbar no one wants and 0.5mm cut in thickness. - Loss (over the years) of the ability to upgrade the CPU, SSD or memory; - Display failures due to broken ribbon cables; - The USB-C clusterF; and - Loss of MagSafe (this one still hurt…

> Loss of MagSafe (this one still hurts). I will NEVER forgive them for this. Jobs was RIGHT when he said this was a major innovation over everyone else. Now Apple is either saying he was wrong or THEY are wrong. They're not BOTH right. My 2015 is the last MBP I will ever buy and it's aging fast... I think it's hackingtosh from here on out. I primarily use Ubuntu but I have to have a Mac as our app runs cross platfor…

Here's the announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeqF7zcBOVA

It was revolutionary, and they removed it.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by spronkey »

saagarjha wrote: post #847
Jill_the_Pill wrote: post #724

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You can buy a like-new, souped-up 2015 Macbook Pro on ebay. I am very happy with mine, except for the new OS.

> except for the new OS What do you dislike about the OS? Presumably it's running macOS Mojave?

Personally, Mojave has caused my 2013 rMBP 15" to go from a near-silent machine most of the time to one that has fans spinning noisily at all times.

Have tried everything short of a complete reformat - NVRAM, SMC reset. Nothing in activity monitor gives me any clues either.

I even rolled back to High Sierra to check my sanity. No crazy fan spin. Reinstalled Mojave --> crazy fan spin.

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