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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by wwweston »

apl002 wrote: post #618
gilbetron wrote: post #74

After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

i refuse to let go of my 2015 model because i can't stand the new ones. Not sure what I am going to do when it stops receiving new OS upgrades

My unibody/pre-retina mid-2012 is still getting them (and I'm still using it, because it's the last/best machine that still had a truly matte screen!), so you're probably safe for a few more cycles.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by stephenr »

ben-schaaf wrote: post #628
dcosson wrote: post #485

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess I'm the only one that thinks USB-C is actually better? The biggest win is that now I can use a single dongle for power, displayport to my monitor, and connection to a USB hub. So if I take my laptop home or into a meeting room, when I get back to my desk it's just a single thing to plug in now instead of 3+ separate cables. And since this stuff is all standardized now and there's no longer anything Apple prop…

I was initially sceptical of USB-C, but was looking forward to having less things to plug in. Then I learnt that USB-C only supports up to 100W of power, and even worse the MBP included charger is only 87W. All high performance laptops draw more power than that at high load (think gaming, rendering, etc.). I just don't see USB-C ever replacing a proper charging cable if it can't even supply enough power to run the co…

> All high performance laptops draw more power than that at high load

You’re going to need to qualify what you mean by “high performance”.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by mailslot »

ericabiz wrote: post #708
Scarbutt wrote: post #197

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The cheapest XPS 15" is more expensive than the cheapest MB 15". Are there any reliable ~$1000 laptops to host linux?

I’m not sure where you’re looking, but the XPS 15 starts at $1000. Of course, you’re not going to want that hybrid drive. Dell also has an upcoming Memorial Day sale where they will discount certain models, and the new XPS 15 is due out next month. https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/xps-15/spd/xps-...

I was going to say that the SSD is slower on the XPS, and it is, but it’s close.

The storage in the MBP is wicked fast even in the base configuration.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by CamperBob2 »

ksec wrote: post #463
ksec wrote: post #353

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> If you need a Mac, consider a desktop version (with a SSD!) SSD is undoubtedly the single biggest system performance upgrade in the past 10 years. And we will soon past the halfway point of 2019, Apple is still selling an iMac with 1TB 5400 RPM HDD by default. Apart from AirPod and Apple Watch, there is nothing on the current Apple's product line I am satisfy with.

Thanks for the downvote on what I thought was not even controversial. If we have to discuss whether "SSD is undoubtedly the single biggest system performance upgrade in the past 10 years." is correct then I think we can call it agree to disagree.

Not much point in complaining about downvotes on here. There is a certain population of, well, professional contrarians on HN, and there's also the (deliberately?) poor design decision that places the upvote and downvote arrows a few pixels apart. Someone may have voted you down by mistake. Think empty boat[1], not U-boat.

[1] https://www.thedailyzen.org/2015/05/27/the-empty-boat-by-chu...

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by kalleboo »

CivBase wrote: post #649
cletus wrote: post #125

What a clusterF is modern Mac hardware: - Keyboards with much worse action that are more prone to failure (from dust no less) and require replacing the motherboard to fix... all for a Touchbar no one wants and 0.5mm cut in thickness. - Loss (over the years) of the ability to upgrade the CPU, SSD or memory; - Display failures due to broken ribbon cables; - The USB-C clusterF; and - Loss of MagSafe (this one still hurt…

> Loss of MagSafe (this one still hurts). I've been wondering for a while now why USB-IF hasn't defined a standard magnetic connector. I'm surprised none of the flagship smartphones or laptops have tried to push their own magnetic connector. They're desperate to differentiate themselves in the current market and wireless charging is falling behind quickly due to physical constraints. I use a volta cable for my phone…

I think Apple has a patent

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by bdowling »

ben-schaaf wrote: post #628
dcosson wrote: post #485

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess I'm the only one that thinks USB-C is actually better? The biggest win is that now I can use a single dongle for power, displayport to my monitor, and connection to a USB hub. So if I take my laptop home or into a meeting room, when I get back to my desk it's just a single thing to plug in now instead of 3+ separate cables. And since this stuff is all standardized now and there's no longer anything Apple prop…

I was initially sceptical of USB-C, but was looking forward to having less things to plug in. Then I learnt that USB-C only supports up to 100W of power, and even worse the MBP included charger is only 87W. All high performance laptops draw more power than that at high load (think gaming, rendering, etc.). I just don't see USB-C ever replacing a proper charging cable if it can't even supply enough power to run the co…

Two USB-C ports in parallel would get you to 200W.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by arihant »

Honestly, with the new Pro laptops having so much issues, my next Mac setup will be an iMac with an Air. After using the 2018 model, I have a different level of respect for my 2015.

So much double typing on 2018, who designed that keyboard? It is not even a Pro laptop for authors anymore, who arguably need the least computing power.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by gigatexal »

I know the keyboard is garbage but I always get AppleCare and treat my machines very well but if I got a 2019 model with the butterfly keyboard I’d be even more paranoid about dust and foreign particulates getting under the keys. I’m still most productive on OSX but that is changing as the Linux ecosystem gets better and better.

If they would just go back to the old pricing model and bring back a sane robust keyboard people would be so much happier.

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