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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by twalla »

FunnyLookinHat wrote: post #265
ericabiz wrote: post #51

We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

Yeah the upgrade policy at my work kicked in and they tried to give me one of these... instead I got a Thinkpad X1 Extreme and put Linux on it. No regrets.

I'm curious to hear about your experience with the X1 Extreme. My current employer has an equipment stipend that's the exact cost of a maxed out 15" macbook, I'd rather get the Thinkpad, a nice monitor and go to a conference.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

peterkelly wrote: post #655
LeoPanthera wrote: post #509

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"Just make sure to fix some of the sleep issues..." A great example of why people buy Macs, though. Most people don't want to faff around with hackery getting Linux to work properly. And with Windows 10's horrible privacy issues, Macs are still the best choice. They're buying them for the software, not the hardware.

My god. Problems with sleep/resume were what ultimately convinced me to switch from Linux to Mac 12 years ago . It's insane to see there are still issues with it today.

Well, as I’ve said in a different comment, there is a very clear reason why the computer does not come configured properly for Linux sleep modes. Windows is using a new sleep system that seems to involve disabling a sleep mode in the BIOS, and the laptop arrives installed with Windows. Once you install Linux, you just need to go in to the BIOS and change the setting from windows specific sleep modes to traditional sleep modes, and then after you reboot you need to tell Linux that sleep mode is now available.

It’s not a problem with Linux, it’s just due to the fact that Linux and windows are different and the laptop is configured for windows. Once you make the change the sleep behavior is wonderful and I keep the laptop in my bag for days at a time on sleep.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by innocentoldguy »

AznHisoka wrote: post #662
cbm-vic-20 wrote: post #351

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I'm disappointed that Apple didn't either kill the Touchbar, or commit to it fully: why is there no desktop keyboard (wireless or wired) with the Touchbar? Presumably a huge amount of Pro users (this is a Macbook "Pro", right?) plug into keyboard, pointing device, and monitor frequently...

I work from home and open the laptop only if I need to be on a video call. Otherwise yeah, plug into keyboard. I had to work in a coffeeshop one day and had to use the keyboard. I have no idea how anyone can tolerate that piece of shit, to put it lightly.

I actually like the new keyboard quite well. It helps with RSI issues for me.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by c141charlie »

I’ll sacrifice myself at the alter of Steve Jobs. I have a 2018 MacBook Pro with a 6-core CPU and 32GB of RAM and I absolutely love it (with exception to the Touch Bar which sucks if you’re a VIM user). Once you get used to the butterfly keyboard you can fly. The light weight makes traveling with a 15 inch laptop a pleasant experience. The screen, speakers, and touch pad are fantastic. I haven’t had a single issue with the keyboard, and I am constant munching on food, getting crumbs in between the keyboard, etc. Dongle life isn’t as bad as it sounds. Put one in your backpack and use it when needed. I also bought the LG 5K monitor and that has been the perfect compliment to this laptop. OK back to drinking more kool aid.

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Post by mgkimsal »

docker_up wrote: post #176
endymi0n wrote: post #111

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I can only come to the same conclusion. Typing this on a 2018 MacBook 15 inch, and it's a disaster. I still keep accidentally hitting the Touchbar ten times per day while typing (it's not a press-bar, duh), I need a dongle for _everything and their mother_, battery lifetime isn't good, the keyboard is prone to mistyping and double clicks, the screen doesn't get bright enough sometimes, I can't get any higher spec har…

I recently was forced to upgrade by 2015 laptop at work because the battery life was finally short enough that I couldn't stand it. I hate dongles. The 2015 Macbook will stand as their last best laptop. Nothing about the 2018 laptop is better, it's only worse. I don't understand why they don't see this. There should really be a huge multi-billion dollar class action lawsuit for their keyboards and fixability to wake…

Just spent $200 on new battery and install for my 2015 MBP. I wish I'd opted for the 1t model vs 512g drive, but was getting refurb and at the time they had no 1t left - wasn't sure they'd have any more (friend of mine snagged one a few weeks later!)

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Post by dzonga »

bluedino wrote: post #447
rarecoil wrote: post #334

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Wasn't that kind of the point of the "Pro" line? I mean, if you just wanted a kinda cool laptop, you'd buy a MacBook or MacBook Air. It's now the MacBook Prosumer, and there is no pro option. Hacker News has been whinging about this Apple dilemma for years. I'm sorry to say that I just don't think there will ever be the golden age of MacBooks again. The "Pro" ideas coming from Cupertino are gimmicky at best for devel…

I love Thinkpads but the trackpads, screen, and build quality leave a lot to be desired. Every Mac is the same level of assembly/quality but ThinkPads vary too much from one to another. The prices for the high-performance models are almost as high as Apple and the power bricks are actually bricks.

I have a t490 with 500 nit display. 100% ARGB / SRGB. I haven't seen any macbook display that's sharp. Btw I have a personal 2012 Retina Macbook pro & a 2018 Macbook pro that I use for work for frontend.

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Post by chimpburger »

WalterSear wrote: post #325
endymi0n wrote: post #111

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I can only come to the same conclusion. Typing this on a 2018 MacBook 15 inch, and it's a disaster. I still keep accidentally hitting the Touchbar ten times per day while typing (it's not a press-bar, duh), I need a dongle for _everything and their mother_, battery lifetime isn't good, the keyboard is prone to mistyping and double clicks, the screen doesn't get bright enough sometimes, I can't get any higher spec har…

May suggest running Ubuntu in a VM for a while, see how it works for you? Not that that will help address driver issues. Fwiw, it's my current setup - I'm currently trying to decide between installing it outside the VM, or migrating to a cloud desktop. Unix still isn't a great desktop, but, as the alternatives get worse, it's coming into its own.

You mean Linux (not Unix). MacOS is a certified UNIX operating system.

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Post by swozey »

FabHK wrote: post #401
ericabiz wrote: post #51

We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

> this is a part that's pretty much guaranteed to fail (unless you basically never open your laptop.) I have a 2016 MacBook "Pro", and every single part has been replaced (thanks, Apple Care) except the bottom plate. It seems to me they are not really designed to be moved, or used in an environment with, you know, particles and such. Plug it in once, put a transparent dome over it, look at it, and you'll be just fine…

My 2016 is the first MBP where I've felt that. I have huge dents on it and it's in a Thule laptop bag if it's not on my desk. I'm not exactly gentle on my backpack but I never had to concern myself with my old 2015s (had a couple of these). I rarely use it outside of work, I take it home just for emergencies and it sits on my coat rack in the bag.

And you know what I'd totally pay $3k for a full on desktop replacement that does what I do with it. Fatten it up, give it better thermals, removable batteries, make it MORE durable, etc. I remember using 12lb Dell laptops. We're past the point of diminishing returns on portability now.

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Post by mgkimsal »

TomVDB wrote: post #306
golfer wrote: post #261

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100% agree. I'm typing this on a 2015 Macbook Pro, and holding on for dear life, even as it has started alerting me about servicing the battery. It's a great machine. I tried using the touchbar on my son's newer MBP. It's awful, and not meant for serious use. His laptop has been replaced once already due to keyboard issue, and starting to show defects again.

Replace the battery. I did it last year on my 2012 rMBpro after it have been complaining about servicing the battery for about a year, and while it wasn't a walk in the park, it all worked out great. Tip: there are 2 ways to replace the battery. One is by following the official iFixit etc instructions where you remove absolutely everything before you peel off the battery with acetone. The other is by immediately peel…

or take it to a local repair shop.

i bought an $80 battery (ifixit? i can't remember now) and took it to a local shop and had it back in 3 hours. they charged $120. So... ~$200 but I had same day replacement.

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Post by rangibaby »

totololo wrote: post #686
dwighttk wrote: post #584

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weird I'm on an early 2013 MBP (original battery) at 81% health (226 cycles)

You keep it plugged in all the time? Do you feel a noticeable drop in battery life? When mine reached those 80% health I felt like it had lost half its battery life or more...

Same here (2013 Retina MBP)
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