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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by ddingus »

rbanffy wrote: post #564
liability wrote: post #452

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There were hints of it even back in the Apple II and Apple III era, both of which released with inadaquate cooling.

The only 8-bit Apple that suffered from inadequate cooling was the III. An average II would never overheat. You could, of course, load your II to a limit it'd fail, but my //e was fairly loaded (320k of RAM, SSC, Grappler, Microsoft Softcard (1 MHz Z-80), AE clock, Disk II and a PAL-M board). The II+ had mostly the same configs, with 64K and a Videx 80-column card in dual-head configuration. Both ran warm-ish for abo…

This was my general experience as well.

Having pulled a //e out of storage, that's all still true, FWIW. (I need to recap that machine one day soon.)

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by AznHisoka »

cbm-vic-20 wrote: post #351
docker_up wrote: post #176

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I recently was forced to upgrade by 2015 laptop at work because the battery life was finally short enough that I couldn't stand it. I hate dongles. The 2015 Macbook will stand as their last best laptop. Nothing about the 2018 laptop is better, it's only worse. I don't understand why they don't see this. There should really be a huge multi-billion dollar class action lawsuit for their keyboards and fixability to wake…

I'm disappointed that Apple didn't either kill the Touchbar, or commit to it fully: why is there no desktop keyboard (wireless or wired) with the Touchbar? Presumably a huge amount of Pro users (this is a Macbook "Pro", right?) plug into keyboard, pointing device, and monitor frequently...

I work from home and open the laptop only if I need to be on a video call. Otherwise yeah, plug into keyboard. I had to work in a coffeeshop one day and had to use the keyboard. I have no idea how anyone can tolerate that piece of shit, to put it lightly.

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Post by stoppergoo »

ridicter wrote: post #475
stoppergoo wrote: post #461

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Really just the MagSafe is the big difference they lost. Supposedly the keyboard sucks, why don’t they just fix it or go back to the previous iteration. Either way I think these are still the best notebooks you can buy. Ubuntu doesn’t even work right on my dell desktop - it never remembers dual monitor settings, even with Nvidia official drivers installed. When I open my MacBook Air I can just use it without waiting…

For what it's worth, my multi-monitor settings are remembered just fine in Ubuntu 19.04. I _just_ switched from Macbook Pro to Dell XPS 13/Ubuntu, and I couldn't get multi-monitor to work for Ubuntu 18.04, but everything worked out of box for 19.04. But I don't know if upgrading will mess with any legacy config you may have!

Thanks!!! I am upgraded from 14 to 18 and was disappointed that not even Ubuntu got multi monitor to remember basic settings properly. I’ll give 19 a shot then !!

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Post by mixedCase »

endymi0n wrote: post #111
gilbetron wrote: post #74

After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

I can only come to the same conclusion. Typing this on a 2018 MacBook 15 inch, and it's a disaster. I still keep accidentally hitting the Touchbar ten times per day while typing (it's not a press-bar, duh), I need a dongle for _everything and their mother_, battery lifetime isn't good, the keyboard is prone to mistyping and double clicks, the screen doesn't get bright enough sometimes, I can't get any higher spec har…

>I feel too old to compile my own kernel for a glitchy wifi driver

You'll be happy to hear about dkms then. Just install the driver, let your package manager update it and it will recompile on its own for whatever kernel you're using.

This is if you even need such a thing.

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Post by amiga-workbench »

namibj wrote: post #483
amiga-workbench wrote: post #320

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Good lord, I knew the newer Lenovo models were underwhelming but that's their flagship premium model. That's utterly unacceptable.

It's their thin-is-better lighter-is-more-important model. In the traditional 14-16" size, the T4xx/T5xx devices do what they are supposed to. A changable battery (while running, without tools) enables you to do things like swapping an empty battery for a full one, either by plugging in shortly, using a secondary battery in the case, or briefly shutting down. I don't want to carry that much energy with me all the tim…

I believe the hot-swappable batteries are a goner on the latest T series machines.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by actuator »

So, I need a personal laptop and I think I will go for the 2013-2015 rMBP. I want to go for X1 Carbon but haven't had nice experience with Ubuntu on it.

I looked at the 4 core i7 configurations and they have Geekbench score of 13k-14k. So, doesn't seem that bad compared to the new processors and should hold up on CPU front for three more years I guess.

I had a question to people who use 15" MBPs. Since I am not able to get 13" ones with 16 GB RAM. Are the 15" noticeably bulky and less mobile than 13" ones?

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Post by ianwalter »

actuator wrote: post #666

So, I need a personal laptop and I think I will go for the 2013-2015 rMBP. I want to go for X1 Carbon but haven't had nice experience with Ubuntu on it. I looked at the 4 core i7 configurations and they have Geekbench score of 13k-14k. So, doesn't seem that bad compared to the new processors and should hold up on CPU front for three more years I guess. I had a question to people who use 15" MBPs. Since I am not able…

I don’t think they are and prefer 15” now. I even can fit my 2017 15” in my old Incase bag that was made for the last generation of 13” MacBook Pros.

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Post by dzonga »

I recently bought a thinkpad t490 and installed Manjaro. Best experience I ever had on a laptop. Followed by my late 2012 Macbook pro that served me faithfully for the past 6 years. At work, as front-end dev, I use a 15" 2018 Macbook pro.one of the worst laptops I ever used. Kernel panics weekly. Almost as shitty as one of the Dell ultrabook I used in 2012 before I switched to a Macbook

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Post by village-idiot »

cletus wrote: post #125

What a clusterF is modern Mac hardware: - Keyboards with much worse action that are more prone to failure (from dust no less) and require replacing the motherboard to fix... all for a Touchbar no one wants and 0.5mm cut in thickness. - Loss (over the years) of the ability to upgrade the CPU, SSD or memory; - Display failures due to broken ribbon cables; - The USB-C clusterF; and - Loss of MagSafe (this one still hurt…

I actually really like USB-C. The ability for any cable to work at any port is extremely nice, so I don’t have to run the power cord awkwardly just to meet the left side of the laptop.

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Post by christkv »

TomVDB wrote: post #306
golfer wrote: post #261

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100% agree. I'm typing this on a 2015 Macbook Pro, and holding on for dear life, even as it has started alerting me about servicing the battery. It's a great machine. I tried using the touchbar on my son's newer MBP. It's awful, and not meant for serious use. His laptop has been replaced once already due to keyboard issue, and starting to show defects again.

Replace the battery. I did it last year on my 2012 rMBpro after it have been complaining about servicing the battery for about a year, and while it wasn't a walk in the park, it all worked out great. Tip: there are 2 ways to replace the battery. One is by following the official iFixit etc instructions where you remove absolutely everything before you peel off the battery with acetone. The other is by immediately peel…

The way I did it was to use dental floss to cut through the glue and then removing the batteries.
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