Too bad I cannot manage to find Crash by Dave Matthews Band in Apple Music. All the other are available (at least in France).
You don't know how lucky you are.
CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Bob Dylan and The Beatles are regarded as very important and influential figures in popular music This was the assumption through the later half of the 20th century, but I don't think it's the case at this point. I haven't even heard The Beatles in a commercial context in about a decade (something unthinkable as early as 2000). Hip hop clearly had a large influence on the pop culture of today and (totally unreprese…
In late 90s early 2000s hip hop was still regarded are something new and a bit controversial. I think, sort of, like mumble rap this days. Of course hip hop started in 20th century but it's biggest influence we was on the beginning of 21st century.
I can’t find a non Wikipedia reference, but it did say that hip hop was the best selling genre by 1999.
Just for reference, these are the top 100 songs of 2000. The year before the iPod was introduced.
None of the hip hop songs that were popular were groundbreaking - mostly just bubble gum rap. I doubt very seriously that Apple would have been willing to put any socially conscious rap on iPods.
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It was also a reminder that your phone is backdoored by Apple and they can do whatever they please with it and your files. But they never would. But they can.
There is a pretty big difference between something that autodownloads a list retrieved from a database-backed web service and remote code execution (a “backdoor”).
OS updates are remote code execution. We trust them because it's in the best financial interest of the company not to abuse them.
Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)
#44Playlist with all 20 albums on Apple music: https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/20-cds/pl.u-4JomX69uaZa1...
Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Bob Dylan and The Beatles are regarded as very important and influential figures in popular music This was the assumption through the later half of the 20th century, but I don't think it's the case at this point. I haven't even heard The Beatles in a commercial context in about a decade (something unthinkable as early as 2000). Hip hop clearly had a large influence on the pop culture of today and (totally unreprese…
In late 90s early 2000s hip hop was still regarded are something new and a bit controversial. I think, sort of, like mumble rap this days. Of course hip hop started in 20th century but it's biggest influence we was on the beginning of 21st century.
> In late 90s early 2000s hip hop was still regarded are something new and a bit controversial.
Not really, hip hop / rap was fairly mainstream by the late 1980s / early 1990s.
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Apple Computer was continuously in legal battles with Apple Corps (the record label owned by the Beatles) over staying out of each other’s business (easy for the Beatles, hard for Steve Jobs) Shipping iPod with Beatles content would have been a really nasty legal knot. Or it would have made the universe implode. One or the other. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer
When Apple and Apple settled their differences and you could finally get the Beatles on iTunes, Apple Stores played only Beetles music over their sound systems for months . I can only imagine what it was like working there at that point.
> I can only imagine what it was like working there at that point.
Amazing?
Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)
#47> Today, you can watch that historical event on YouTube > Video unavailable sigh.
archive.org to the rescue. They are a charity. Give them money.
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Sure, but if you had to winnow all of the world's (or just US's) best music down to only 20 CDs, do you really need to include two Beatles albums and Simon and Garfunkel ones? Is Faith Hill really the best you can do for country? I would ditch those three and consider replacing them with: * Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison * Michael Jackson - Thriller * Wu Tang Clan - Enter The Wu Tang Some punk and metal representatio…
If we're going for a "best" list (rather than "most important") a cheap way to slightly improve it would be to swap Nevermind for In Utero. Though I thought it was actually a pretty well-curated set of albums. "Best" isn't always the... well, best, thing to aim for in a collection.
I'm not a huge Nirvana fan, but I agree. The band ended before it realized its full potential and I think In Utero was a small taste of where they were headed. Heart Shaped Box is so much better than their earlier hits (which are by no means bad)that I never even bother to listen to their older music anymore.
Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)
#49I thought I was going to roll my eyes at the selection, but there's something for everyone here given the year and they allow listeners to dip into genre's they may never actively listen to. Quite nice to see Miles Davis' "Kinda Blue" and the Dave Brubeck Quartet's "Take Five". Those were the two albums (along with Coltrane's "Blue Train" and Thelonius Monk - [don't remember the record]) that gave me an entry door in…
The omission of Hip Hop is rather startling from today's perspective (and even for the time). Having only a single rock album, on the other hand (and no Metal), might look prescient today.
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In late 90s early 2000s hip hop was still regarded are something new and a bit controversial. I think, sort of, like mumble rap this days. Of course hip hop started in 20th century but it's biggest influence we was on the beginning of 21st century.
I think it was fairly well established at this point (Jay Z, Outkast...). My somewhat snarky point though was that the iPod was obviously a very forward thinking and revolutionary device that was the direct predecessor the iPhone. Jobs had great vision and could practically "see the future" of consumer electronics, yet this music collection is like the most generic suburban backyard bbq playlist for middle age people…
>If Jobs had the same insight into music as he had into tech, we'd see way more hip hop, electronic.
You can be on the cutting edge of music without liking hip hop or electronic music. The problems wasn't the genres he picked, but the incredibly generic band choices within those genres.
I do like hip hop (and electronic is slowly growing on me), but that doesn't mean that everyone that doesn't is out of touch. There's interesting music coming out of nearly every genre in 2019. That's the way it always is.