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Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by gilbetron »

tlrobinson wrote: post #269
gilbetron wrote: post #74

After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

What have the biggest annoyances been when switching? I occasionally try switching but always get frustrated with the amount of time I have to spend fussing with graphics drivers, multitouch drivers, keyboard shortcuts, etc, but it's possible that's because I've only really attempted it on Apple hardware.

Driver issues were very minimal (had to turn off a power management thing, and use the on board graphics card for most usage), maybe an hour-ish. Otherwise, I was completely shocked how modern the experience is. Honestly, I find it better than the Mac UI because it lets me just get shit done without getting in my way. Keyboard shortcuts are weird, but I was using Windows 10 in the mix as well, so I'm used to that. However, I was never big into the apple ecosystem, so it would be more painful if you have an iphone, ipad, use itunes for everything, etc.

I'm in the google ecosystem, so life was crazy easy.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by firethief »

popularrecluse wrote: post #135
mmartinson wrote: post #90

I'm currently using the last, best 2015 macbook, and having tried a newer model as a work computer for a short while previously, am dreading the day I need to think about replacing it. How about this apple. "macbook util". The pro line can keep the thin delicate stuff. Give me the 2015 case, screen, keyboard, and magsafe, with some new internals and a usb-c. I'd happily hand over my money.

Yes, a developer's edition. I'll take a heavier, larger device with more and varied ports and extended battery life please. An all-hardware keyboard with a useful arrow-key configuration that doesn't make me press the wrong key all the time. An actual 'esc' key so I have my caps lock key back.

That sounds like a regular laptop

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by breck »

docker_up wrote: post #176
endymi0n wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only come to the same conclusion. Typing this on a 2018 MacBook 15 inch, and it's a disaster. I still keep accidentally hitting the Touchbar ten times per day while typing (it's not a press-bar, duh), I need a dongle for _everything and their mother_, battery lifetime isn't good, the keyboard is prone to mistyping and double clicks, the screen doesn't get bright enough sometimes, I can't get any higher spec har…

I recently was forced to upgrade by 2015 laptop at work because the battery life was finally short enough that I couldn't stand it. I hate dongles. The 2015 Macbook will stand as their last best laptop. Nothing about the 2018 laptop is better, it's only worse. I don't understand why they don't see this. There should really be a huge multi-billion dollar class action lawsuit for their keyboards and fixability to wake…

I think the maxed out 2017 Air (before the retina display) is their best, if you're not doing much video or too much ML.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by mullingitover »

It's telling that they immediately list these brand new laptops on their page offering extended support for the defective keyboards[1].

Unpopular opinion, but I continue to believe Apple needs to just walk away from the computer business. It's a negligible part of their core phone business, and it shows. I really wish that they'd license the OS to let people (and OEMs) build quality workstations.

[1] https://www.apple.com/support/keyboard-service-program-for-m...

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by nextos »

Symbiote wrote: post #390
microtonal wrote: post #181

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I am still using a MacBook Pro 2018 as my laptop, but do my primary work on an Intel NUC8i5BEH with Linux. I work remotely from my home, so I rarely need the laptop anymore. The NUC has the same quad core Intel i5-8259U, with double the RAM and double the SSD size at approximately a quarter of the price of MacBook Pro. If you don't have an existing screen, you can buy a good Dell HiDPI screen for ~500 Euros. The Linu…

I have the previous generation NUC, a NUC7i5BNH, as my home computer. I put it in a Akasa fanless case, and it's wonderful — it's completely silent. I use Kubuntu, since I've been using KDE for 15 years. I use 5% of the configuration options — just by looking, you'd think it was a default install — but I really miss that 5% if I'm on a Mac or Windows.

Came here to say the same thing. If you can avoid using a laptop, I know many people can't, a desktop buys you a lot of freedom.

Freedom to choose good components, a fanless case, and a functional OS like NixOS.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by madoublet »

I have the 15" 2018 MacBook Pro and would not recommend one until the following issues are resolved:

- It runs really, really hot. It cannot be used on your lap. I cannot imagine how hot a faster model would be.

- The keyboard is unreliable. I have not had the stuck key problem (yet!), but I do notice occasional crunching like something is stuck in the keys. I do not eat around this machine on purpose.

- The Touchbar is really bad. I wanted to like it. But, it is annoying more times than it is helpful.

- Not having a touchscreen when every other high end machine does seems more and more like a gap that needs to be resolved.

- Windows management continues to be crap in OSX.

There are a lot of good things. The screen is good. The touchpad is top notch. OSX is reliable and fast. But, yeah, the hardware just sucks right now. No way around it.

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Post by btian »

AtHeartEngineer wrote: post #284
swozey wrote: post #14

These used to excite me because I've desperately needed 32gb and faster procs and used to upgrade every 2-3 years but now I just yawn at MBP releases. I'm so unexcited by everything about this form factor other than the fact that it has OSX. I'm guessing I'll be on my 2016 until I finally bite the bullet and quit using OSX if they don't make a more compelling package to spend my $3k on in the next few years. I don't…

Agreed, the keyboard is awful. I just want a decent/good keyboard, an HDMI port, and just 1 USB A port, I'll definitely take 0.5mm thicker for those. Well, at least they kept the headphone jack... 32gb ram and an 8 core processor is awesome, but all the downsides have turned me away from getting the next gen unless they fix those things.

Have you found it?

2018 Macbook Pro is 3mm thinner than 2015 MBP.

0.5mm for all the things you asked for sounds really hard.

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