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CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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A lot of music on that list is not specific for baby boomers. Even those baby boomer era artists like Bob Dylan and The Beatles are regarded as very important and influential figures in popular music. Not to mention that Mozart, Nirvana, Faith Hill and Bach are definitely not baby boomers era artists

> Bob Dylan and The Beatles are regarded as very important and influential figures in popular music This was the assumption through the later half of the 20th century, but I don't think it's the case at this point. I haven't even heard The Beatles in a commercial context in about a decade (something unthinkable as early as 2000). Hip hop clearly had a large influence on the pop culture of today and (totally unreprese…

In late 90s early 2000s hip hop was still regarded are something new and a bit controversial. I think, sort of, like mumble rap this days. Of course hip hop started in 20th century but it's biggest influence we was on the beginning of 21st century.

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bob Dylan and The Beatles are regarded as very important and influential figures in popular music This was the assumption through the later half of the 20th century, but I don't think it's the case at this point. I haven't even heard The Beatles in a commercial context in about a decade (something unthinkable as early as 2000). Hip hop clearly had a large influence on the pop culture of today and (totally unreprese…

In late 90s early 2000s hip hop was still regarded are something new and a bit controversial. I think, sort of, like mumble rap this days. Of course hip hop started in 20th century but it's biggest influence we was on the beginning of 21st century.

I think it was fairly well established at this point (Jay Z, Outkast...). My somewhat snarky point though was that the iPod was obviously a very forward thinking and revolutionary device that was the direct predecessor the iPhone. Jobs had great vision and could practically "see the future" of consumer electronics, yet this music collection is like the most generic suburban backyard bbq playlist for middle age people. If Jobs had the same insight into music as he had into tech, we'd see way more hip hop, electronic. Hell, even yacht rock has comeback in a way that The Dave Matthews Band or Faith Hill never will.

This is to be expected of course, I just think it's humorous.

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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I thought the same thing when I saw the title of this, but rolling your eyes at Glenn Gould playing Bach, Bob Marley, Nirvana or the Beatles? Come on! This is some of the most influential and culturally important music there is. This isn't just popular it's good. Of course it'd be more interesting if they chose Gamelan, late John Coltrane, Jordi Savall, Karlheinz Stockhausen or Merzbow, but seriously what else would…

> Glenn Gould playing Bach, Bob Marley, Nirvana or the Beatles One of these things is not like the others :) Yes, there's some great music included but it's a very cliche and unsurprising collection. Certainly not "think different" style.

That's a feature, not a bug - they could more easily compare the sound quality of the iPod to other devices.

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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Just because someone is at the top of their field (consumer electronics) doesn't mean that they know anything about other, non-related fields (music). I was actually at this event and I remember rolling my eyes so hard they almost fell out of their sockets as this was the most trite, baby boomer-centric music selection I'd ever seen. Not to mention the cringe worthy Bono/Jobs relationship: https://blogs.wsj.com/speak…

>Just because someone is at the top of their field (consumer electronics) doesn't mean that they know anything about other, non-related fields (music)

Apple was not exactly at the top of their field before betting on the iPod. The curated collection was not only personal, it was also as iconic as the device it was meant to show off. You would probably balk at the idea of Karlheinz Brandenburg's choice of Tom's Diner too.

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Just because someone is at the top of their field (consumer electronics) doesn't mean that they know anything about other, non-related fields (music). I was actually at this event and I remember rolling my eyes so hard they almost fell out of their sockets as this was the most trite, baby boomer-centric music selection I'd ever seen. Not to mention the cringe worthy Bono/Jobs relationship: https://blogs.wsj.com/speak…

>Just because someone is at the top of their field (consumer electronics) doesn't mean that they know anything about other, non-related fields (music).

So?

I think the article is just a geewiz kinda article that looks back and lists the CDs. It's interesting, I don't think it is declaring Jobs or anyone else some sort of status as defining music in anyway. Most of that music is highly thought of by lots of people anyway.

The rest of your post I think says more about your preferences than anything else.

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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It's a pity they couldn't continue to pack those into production iPods (I'm sure it would've been too costly). There's a handful of albums within that group I already own, and a good number that I wouldn't necessarily buy, but would definitely listen to if it were freely included.

Apple Computer was continuously in legal battles with Apple Corps (the record label owned by the Beatles) over staying out of each other’s business (easy for the Beatles, hard for Steve Jobs)

Shipping iPod with Beatles content would have been a really nasty legal knot. Or it would have made the universe implode. One or the other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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It's a pity they couldn't continue to pack those into production iPods (I'm sure it would've been too costly). There's a handful of albums within that group I already own, and a good number that I wouldn't necessarily buy, but would definitely listen to if it were freely included.

Apple Computer was continuously in legal battles with Apple Corps (the record label owned by the Beatles) over staying out of each other’s business (easy for the Beatles, hard for Steve Jobs) Shipping iPod with Beatles content would have been a really nasty legal knot. Or it would have made the universe implode. One or the other. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer

I remember that. Seems like a simple idea, but at the time seemed about as doable as cold fusion.

Re: CDs Curated by Steve Jobs and the iPod Team (2016)

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Just because someone is at the top of their field (consumer electronics) doesn't mean that they know anything about other, non-related fields (music). I was actually at this event and I remember rolling my eyes so hard they almost fell out of their sockets as this was the most trite, baby boomer-centric music selection I'd ever seen. Not to mention the cringe worthy Bono/Jobs relationship: https://blogs.wsj.com/speak…

A lot of music on that list is not specific for baby boomers. Even those baby boomer era artists like Bob Dylan and The Beatles are regarded as very important and influential figures in popular music. Not to mention that Mozart, Nirvana, Faith Hill and Bach are definitely not baby boomers era artists

Sure, but if you had to winnow all of the world's (or just US's) best music down to only 20 CDs, do you really need to include two Beatles albums and Simon and Garfunkel ones? Is Faith Hill really the best you can do for country?

I would ditch those three and consider replacing them with:

* Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison

* Michael Jackson - Thriller

* Wu Tang Clan - Enter The Wu Tang

Some punk and metal representation would be good too. And, honestly, Play hasn't held up well over the years. If you want something more representative or influential, maybe Orbital's brown album or Underworld's dubnobywithmyheadman.

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