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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by lern_too_spel »

akamel wrote: post #67
nothis wrote: post #46

I checked their store out of curiosity. Switching from 512MB to 1TB SSD: +$400 WHY? This is literally the only thing that bothers me about Apple pricing. I get that you pay for the design, I get the quirks like introducing touch bar, everything. But I don't get why upgrading from a $50 to a $100 SSD adds 400 dollars.

Because they don't use slow SSDs. The read / write speeds on the SSD in the Macbook Pro are insane. see: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/13/2018-macbook-pro-fastes... we are talking at least 6x what other laptops use.

Your article is comparing against non workstation class laptops. Other laptops in the same class put two NVME SSDs in a RAID configuration for double the throughout.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by tcarn »

ValentineC wrote: post #80
skierguy wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the same thing. Now I'm stuck with a $1500 Asus laptop that barely plays Netflix a year and a half later. despite an 7th gen i7 and 16gb of DDR4. Now I'm saving up for a Macbook Pro again, despite my hatred for the keyboard and touchbar.

> Now I'm stuck with a $1500 Asus laptop that barely plays Netflix a year and a half later. despite an 7th gen i7 and 16gb of DDR4. Any idea what's wrong with it?

Yeah I mean a machine like that should be able to run web apps with no problems...

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by ubercow13 »

skierguy wrote: post #40
swozey wrote: post #14

These used to excite me because I've desperately needed 32gb and faster procs and used to upgrade every 2-3 years but now I just yawn at MBP releases. I'm so unexcited by everything about this form factor other than the fact that it has OSX. I'm guessing I'll be on my 2016 until I finally bite the bullet and quit using OSX if they don't make a more compelling package to spend my $3k on in the next few years. I don't…

I thought the same thing. Now I'm stuck with a $1500 Asus laptop that barely plays Netflix a year and a half later. despite an 7th gen i7 and 16gb of DDR4. Now I'm saving up for a Macbook Pro again, despite my hatred for the keyboard and touchbar.

Why does it barely play Netflix? Why would a Macbook be better?

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by cletus »

What a clusterF is modern Mac hardware:

- Keyboards with much worse action that are more prone to failure (from dust no less) and require replacing the motherboard to fix... all for a Touchbar no one wants and 0.5mm cut in thickness.

- Loss (over the years) of the ability to upgrade the CPU, SSD or memory;

- Display failures due to broken ribbon cables;

- The USB-C clusterF; and

- Loss of MagSafe (this one still hurts).

All for a premium price.

Go back 5 years and you have two great choices:

1. The 13" Macbook Air for under $1500, which was a great compromise of power, portability and affordability; or

2. The 15" Retina Macbook Pro, which was more upgradeable, less failure prone and had a better keyboard.

I bought a 2017 MBP and I deeply regret it. Luckily it hasn't failed yet. If and when it does I may be better off just throwing it away.

How did Apple lose its way so badly here? Serviceability matters. It's too expensive to be a throwaway device.

So who really cares if your throwaway $44k device can now have 8 instead of 6 cores? Really?

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by garmaine »

andyfleming wrote: post #52
thought_alarm wrote: post #38

The arrow keys and touchbar make that machine completely unsuitable for writing code, at least for me. My right hand needs to unconsciously lock on to the arrow keys, and that's just impossible with that layout. There's nothing to grab on to. My new iMac keyboard sits in a drawer collecting dust solely because of the arrow keys. And the butterfly mechanism is unproven and untrustworthy, I don't care how many times th…

There is some claim that they've fixed the keyboard issue. Aside from that, across 2 MacBook Pro's and a MacBook Air, I've had 0 keyboard issues. I don't know if I've just gotten lucky, kept my keyboard clean, or what, but it just has never been a problem for me.

They claim, but then my MacBook Pro with the upgraded keyboard had to get fixed twice due to the "sticky key" issue.

I'm fed up and switching to a different brand.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by unicornfinder »

m0zg wrote: post #73

As a Vim user: no physical escape key, no deal. I've recently tried working on one of these, and the bar is really annoying for another reason: as you switch between apps it keeps changing right in the corner of your vision, distracting from what's going on on the screen. WTF were they thinking?

As a Vim user, just do what any sane man would do and rebind caps lock to escape. Much better.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by joezydeco »

gilbetron wrote: post #74

After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

Keeping an updated Win10 on the laptop is a good idea, it makes the unit easier to sell when it’s time to move on. And you don’t want to pay for that twice.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by swozey »

kimi wrote: post #91
alt_f4 wrote: post #82

1. No OLED 2. No keyboard fix 3. No thin bezels 4. Still annoying touchbar. 5. $2799 for the 8-core with 16GB RAM and only 512GB SSD. Hahaha.. No, thanks.

And no ports, so you have to bring the freaking dongles wherever you go.

What're ya talkin' bout! It's no problem at all! https://i.lensdump.com/i/WHUBii.jpg

gross.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by rootbear »

nothis wrote: post #46

I checked their store out of curiosity. Switching from 512MB to 1TB SSD: +$400 WHY? This is literally the only thing that bothers me about Apple pricing. I get that you pay for the design, I get the quirks like introducing touch bar, everything. But I don't get why upgrading from a $50 to a $100 SSD adds 400 dollars.

My favorite comment on this sort of thing was the claim that Apple uses components made from the powdered bones of unicorns. Sometimes I think that's not far off.
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