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Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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Post by duxup »

wccrawford wrote: post #27
duxup wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing is this person didn't mention the other people. Telling this story this way isn't likely to be seen as attacking someone else / not a huge benefit to them / perhaps LESS of an incentive to lie..

From the article, it sounds like the only reason they didn't name the people was that their lawyer told them not to.

Maybe, but that doesn't change that there's not a lot of value here as far as any given he said he said type situation.

I can belive the writer, it really changes nothing as far as who they're describing as I've still no idea who they are / the author isn't really changing my opinion about anything.

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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Post by gameswithgo »

wccrawford wrote: post #29
Mirioron wrote: post #25

I was with the author until the diversity and equity part. Why does everything have to boil down to skin color and gender? I don't see why you need to offer this for a tech conference. It should be about ability and topics. Edit: I already regret making this post.

Because there's a well-known imbalance, and not everything balances itself. Sometimes fairness requires stepping in and lending a helping hand to right an imbalance.

should we be aggressively encouraging men to take up nursing?

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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Post by j4kp07 »

jawns wrote: post #13

> There is no way of making a technical conference if some people feel insecure or uncomfortable. I'm surprised to hear a conference organizer say this, because I think it's an unrealistic goal. There's a difference between people feeling as if their safety is being directly threatened by someone at a conference and someone feeling uncomfortable with a speaker because of, for instance, some of their personal views th…

> There's a difference between people feeling as if their safety is being directly threatened by someone at a conference and someone feeling uncomfortable with a speaker because of, for instance, some of their personal views that they strongly disagree with.

We live in a Cancel Culture and we might as well get used to it until karma does a 180.

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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Post by srpguy »

commandlinefan wrote: post #12
leereeves wrote: post #7

How can we know if your side of the story is the truth? Either way, this is an excellent example of why the Twitter Justice System is a bad idea.

That was my takeaway - she's doing to him exactly what he allowed other people to do to her. He's finding that he doesn't like it.

Did we read the same article? He turned her speaker position down because of her pattern of vengeful, childlike behavior. She acted completely in line with what her reputation would suggest and pursued a personal harassment campaign.

Maybe I'm missing something. Can you enumerate what he allowed people to do to her, and what she did to him? That way we can compare directly.

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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Post by leereeves »

gameswithgo wrote: post #30
jawns wrote: post #13

> There is no way of making a technical conference if some people feel insecure or uncomfortable. I'm surprised to hear a conference organizer say this, because I think it's an unrealistic goal. There's a difference between people feeling as if their safety is being directly threatened by someone at a conference and someone feeling uncomfortable with a speaker because of, for instance, some of their personal views th…

I think the way these people reacted confirms that it would be a very bad idea to have them at any conference. I wish they were named so I could avoid them now.

Would you avoid them simply on the basis of a blog post?

OP is saying a false accusation turned into a witch hunt because people believed an allegation posted on the Internet without question.

What makes you confident you're better at detecting the truth than the people who believed the woman's story?

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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Post by mgkimsal »

commandlinefan wrote: post #12
leereeves wrote: post #7

How can we know if your side of the story is the truth? Either way, this is an excellent example of why the Twitter Justice System is a bad idea.

That was my takeaway - she's doing to him exactly what he allowed other people to do to her. He's finding that he doesn't like it.

"she's doing to him exactly what he allowed other people to do to her"

Please explain that. What did he 'allow' 'other people' to 'do' to her?

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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Post by lostdog »

gameswithgo wrote: post #32
wccrawford wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there's a well-known imbalance, and not everything balances itself. Sometimes fairness requires stepping in and lending a helping hand to right an imbalance.

should we be aggressively encouraging men to take up nursing?

We are aggressively encouraging men to take up nursing.

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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Post by Fellshard »

wccrawford wrote: post #29
Mirioron wrote: post #25

I was with the author until the diversity and equity part. Why does everything have to boil down to skin color and gender? I don't see why you need to offer this for a tech conference. It should be about ability and topics. Edit: I already regret making this post.

Because there's a well-known imbalance, and not everything balances itself. Sometimes fairness requires stepping in and lending a helping hand to right an imbalance.

That's mealy-mouthed prevarication, and does not match the actual actions taken under the claim of that philosophy. There is a difference between proactive nurturing and proactive suppression and condemnation.

Re: Bullshit I had to go through while organizing a software conference

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Post by MattGrommes »

gameswithgo wrote: post #32
wccrawford wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there's a well-known imbalance, and not everything balances itself. Sometimes fairness requires stepping in and lending a helping hand to right an imbalance.

should we be aggressively encouraging men to take up nursing?

Sure, go for it. But I know a male nurse and he's never experienced anything remotely like what a lot of women I know in tech experience so it's not the equal thought you might think it is.
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