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> Today’s car has the computing power of 20 personal computers Then why does the touchscreen still lag as if powered by a Pentium 4?
I'm all for retaining ownership of your Spotify playlists, Bluetooth synced contact list and location data. But given the number of vehicular deaths, I'm all for having authorities access blackbox-style data like pedal state, acceleration vectors etc. that some controllers already keep around. If you are operating a 100 kW machine in public, how you do it isn't a privacy concern.
Agree. Any activity that is so hostile to other people should be monitored aggressively, and privileges revoked for the slightest reason. By the same token, you should need to file an individual route permit anytime you want to exceed 20 mph in a multi-ton vehicle. The externalized social costs of designating ~25% of our cities' surface area to violent human exclusion zones is hard to overstate. For one example, it's…
It's also difficult to overstate how much value universal transportation has brought to the human race. Maybe more than enough to justify the surface area dedicated to it.
> Today’s car has the computing power of 20 personal computers Then why does the touchscreen still lag as if powered by a Pentium 4?
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On the contrary, the how you do it includes where and when you do it, which is a major privacy concern. Sure, a black box to get telemetry after the fact might make sense, with specificity and my explicit knowledge when access happens. I'd have a hard time turning that into free data for any particular company or government to have though, vehicular deaths aren't the only issue in our world.
Very good point. Although, in the case of an accident, isn't your location already a matter of public record?
If there's a police report, then of course it's a public record.
In the EU, the "e-Call" system is being rolled out which mandates that the car automatically phones home in the event of a crash: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECall
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Attending AA meetings, being treated for an STD or at a cancer center, and consistently leaving a bar at closing time are all perfectly legal, yet something people may wish to be able to exercise significant privacy over.
Agreed, but that also doesn't mean the data can't be used when stripped of identifiers to improve the product and society. I don't want cell phone companies selling my specific location, but I also don't want them to not get data from my phone to improve their services where there are drop outs or other issues.
Why? Why not have that data go someplace it could do real good in informing better safety systems, better traffic management and so on. Privacy is a spectrum, I am getting kinda tired how people think data about them is "theirs". In some cases maybe it should be, in other cases, it should not be. Now maybe you should have a right to see it, download it, and remove identifying markers but I am so tired of this extreme…
It sounds like you would be ok with your car collecting data about you and sending it to the car company. That’s totally fine. I would not be ok with this, and that should be totally fine too! It is a personal preference. Why is it such a big deal to simply ask for consent from the user? Real consent— not the “by using this product you agree” joke we usually get.
Software asks the user all sorts of things when they onboard them. Why is asking for consent to collect data such a pain point for companies?
> Modern cars collect as much as 25 gigabytes of data per hour. Links to this McKinsey study as a source: https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/automotive-and-assembly/... Which says: > Today’s car has the computing power of 20 personal computers, features about 100 million lines of programming code, and processes up to 25 gigabytes of data an hour. McKinsey doesn't cite any sources. But more importantly, processing 25…
Why limit this to just cars? Is there something unique about cars? Why not phone users? Or internet users?
I think the big thing is that people expect their phones to leak some data. It communicates by definition, and that is essential to its operation. The fact that your car leaks such a large volume of sensitive data is surprising, and because it doesn't "need" to collect this data to perform its main function, which is converting dinosaurs into motion. A car also holds a different place in the American consciousness, a…
Our phones leaking our location and browsing habits to advertisers is/should be less expected and acceptable.
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> It is a symbiotic relationship :) What you are saying is that users don't have a choice in the matter.
The choice is "you can choose not to form that relationship [with that vehicle]" (choose not to drive, or purchase a "dumb" car that still has a backup camera and blind spot monitor)
I think this choice will be removed within my lifetime.