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Re: Free Wolfram Engine for Developers

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> Why Aren’t You Using Our Technology? It’s not open source. Even if the engine is “free”, I don’t want to build an open source product with it and hope to be granted a “free production license.” If I build something on my own time I don’t want to ask my employer to purchase a “production license” as soon as it becomes useful. Wolfram believes that mathematics software (or “computational knowledge” or whatever he cal…

Do you use Google?

Re: Free Wolfram Engine for Developers

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Sounds reasonable, although I think this term in the license will discourage many people: “Audit You will maintain accurate records of Your use of the Free Engine sufficient to show compliance with these Terms and Conditions, and Wolfram will have the right to audit such records to confirm compliance therewith. Upon written notice of an audit from Wolfram, You shall respond within ten (10) business days.” https://www…

Is this anything more than keeping version control and responding if challenged with 'git log?'

Re: Free Wolfram Engine for Developers

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post #21

> Why Aren’t You Using Our Technology? It’s not open source. Even if the engine is “free”, I don’t want to build an open source product with it and hope to be granted a “free production license.” If I build something on my own time I don’t want to ask my employer to purchase a “production license” as soon as it becomes useful. Wolfram believes that mathematics software (or “computational knowledge” or whatever he cal…

Do you use Google?

I don’t use Google as my programming language or standard library. (Of course, such a statement is nonsense.)

Re: Free Wolfram Engine for Developers

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I think the adoption would be better if they had a Community Edition like JetBrains does. It’s trickier with their products though since their main market is academic, but there may will be “enterprise” features that can be added to make it worthwhile for a University to buy licenses and individuals to not have to. It’s a great piece of technology I wish I had been able to play with starting as a child along side BASIC.

Re: Free Wolfram Engine for Developers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Wolfram Alpha is a symbolic computation engine. That's a great piece of technology to have when you are trying to get machines to understand humans. The reason Resin is not a symbolic computation engine is because that model hasn't been designed yet. Luckily Resin is a vector space framework that you can use to nest spaces together or transform into new spaces. Building on Resins capabilities for creating models f…

Yeah, but, come on. Isn’t this oversimplifying? “My computer uses bits. That means anything you can make out of bits can run on my computer.” It’s true but essentially vacuous. The value is/includes these difficult-to-build technologies, so the mere fact they could be included isn’t so meaningful and doesn’t add much value.

Sure, but I was not trying to bluff you. Instead I was trying to describe to you a crucial point that is missing from the project's documentation (where I mostly describe the NLP engine) and that is that Resin at its core is a tool for designing such complex models as symbolic computation.

But I hear you. Resin is not Wolfram but more of a framework that you can use to produce something like Wolfram.

Re: Free Wolfram Engine for Developers

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If you're making software to sell, the licensing problems are real, but if all you're doing is quantitative investigation, WL is like a dream.

When I was a grad student in economics, we had to solve really, really long algebra problems as homework. I used Mathematica to see if I was doing the right thing, getting more feedback, and more personalized feedback, earlier than anyone who had to wait for the next class.

Re: Free Wolfram Engine for Developers

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> Why Aren’t You Using Our Technology? It’s not open source. Even if the engine is “free”, I don’t want to build an open source product with it and hope to be granted a “free production license.” If I build something on my own time I don’t want to ask my employer to purchase a “production license” as soon as it becomes useful. Wolfram believes that mathematics software (or “computational knowledge” or whatever he cal…

I don't care that it's not open source, it's a unique technology. Actual algorithms solving actual problems correctly . None of that fuzzy search that you'd get if you used Google. It's an amazing tool in its domain.

My problem with it being closed-source is that it doesn't form a stable platform for my work. If they decide to change their product in incompatible ways in the future, I'm sunk. I have no recourse, I cannot fix the problem if it goes deep enough, and there are no other implementations.

I learned this lesson (albeit from a distance) when Microsoft killed off Visual Basic 6 and replaced it with Visual Basic .Net.

Re: Free Wolfram Engine for Developers

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post #21

> Why Aren’t You Using Our Technology? It’s not open source. Even if the engine is “free”, I don’t want to build an open source product with it and hope to be granted a “free production license.” If I build something on my own time I don’t want to ask my employer to purchase a “production license” as soon as it becomes useful. Wolfram believes that mathematics software (or “computational knowledge” or whatever he cal…

Do you use Google?

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Re: Free Wolfram Engine for Developers

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> Why Aren’t You Using Our Technology? It’s not open source. Even if the engine is “free”, I don’t want to build an open source product with it and hope to be granted a “free production license.” If I build something on my own time I don’t want to ask my employer to purchase a “production license” as soon as it becomes useful. Wolfram believes that mathematics software (or “computational knowledge” or whatever he cal…

I don't care that it's not open source, it's a unique technology. Actual algorithms solving actual problems correctly . None of that fuzzy search that you'd get if you used Google. It's an amazing tool in its domain.

lol it's not unique

maxima has existed for ages, maple has very similar fatures

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