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Self-driving trucks begin mail delivery test for U.S. Postal Service

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Re: Self-driving trucks begin mail delivery test for U.S. Postal Service

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A friend of mine has a son (22 years old) who just started driving a semi truck for one of the big 'Dollar' store chains. Pays $680 a week, he's home every 2 weeks, and as a bonus he gets to unload the truck. Not a terrible job, but not many people want to work that schedule, and a life on the road isn't probably ideal.

Assuming a 50 week year, that's $34k per year, or roughly $17 per hour. No wonder people don't want that job. You work completely alone driving all day for not much more than minimum wage.

Huh? $17/hour is 230% of the Federal minimum wage, and 148% more than the highest state-level minimum in the country (Washington).

Re: Self-driving trucks begin mail delivery test for U.S. Postal Service

#72

Headline is misleading IMO. This is for long-haul mail routing from post office to post office, not last mile delivery.

It's still delivering mail, just from one post office to another.

eh, USPS sortation facility would be better.

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"possible solution to the driver shortage and regulatory constraints faced by freight haulers across the country" - mmm, every industry is facing worker shortage huh -.-

A friend of mine has a son (22 years old) who just started driving a semi truck for one of the big 'Dollar' store chains. Pays $680 a week, he's home every 2 weeks, and as a bonus he gets to unload the truck. Not a terrible job, but not many people want to work that schedule, and a life on the road isn't probably ideal.

> as a bonus he gets to unload the truck.

Literally unload? Does this mean something else? I wouldn't see this as a bonus.

Re: Self-driving trucks begin mail delivery test for U.S. Postal Service

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A friend of mine has a son (22 years old) who just started driving a semi truck for one of the big 'Dollar' store chains. Pays $680 a week, he's home every 2 weeks, and as a bonus he gets to unload the truck. Not a terrible job, but not many people want to work that schedule, and a life on the road isn't probably ideal.

> as a bonus he gets to unload the truck. Literally unload? Does this mean something else? I wouldn't see this as a bonus.

It was sarcasm. Lots of truck driver jobs are hands-on.

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I don't think the quantity of work matters at all for salary. A monitor probably needs more knowledge than a driver (need to know the specifics of the product, how to fix problems etc.), and has the same downsides (long hours, not especially exciting job, bad work hours, sitting all the time etc.). If anything I would think they would be paid more.

It would be wholly dependent on the load and the technical implementation. In my view the monitor would be a driver with standard knowledge and experience who could drive if the autonomous system encountered an edge case or for last-mile, i.e., from the freeway to the shipping or receiving facility. Under those circumstances a load traveling ten hours with six hours of loading and unloading time would require two hou…

It's not like the monitor will be sitting there playing Angry Birds all day - they will be required to be 100% focused on the road so they can intervene at a moment's notice. Personally I'd find that more stressful than just driving myself.

Re: Self-driving trucks begin mail delivery test for U.S. Postal Service

#76

"possible solution to the driver shortage and regulatory constraints faced by freight haulers across the country" - mmm, every industry is facing worker shortage huh -.-

This technology seems like it would do employ less people. Is there really a driver shortage that this wouldn't affect the employed drivers of USPS?

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>Semi's can't react as quickly to changing conditions as a Tesla. That's true whether there's a human driving or a computer. The only relevant distinction for a semi or a Tesla is whether the computer can react faster and make better decisions than a human driver would.

Yes, but so far, no one has ever demonstrated a computer that is even remotely competitive with a human driver.

I agree completely. I just wanted to point out that the higher momentum of a semi doesn't have any bearing on whether it's suitable in theory for automation.

Re: Self-driving trucks begin mail delivery test for U.S. Postal Service

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A friend of mine has a son (22 years old) who just started driving a semi truck for one of the big 'Dollar' store chains. Pays $680 a week, he's home every 2 weeks, and as a bonus he gets to unload the truck. Not a terrible job, but not many people want to work that schedule, and a life on the road isn't probably ideal.

> as a bonus he gets to unload the truck. Literally unload? Does this mean something else? I wouldn't see this as a bonus.

Some drivers have to unload their trucks depending on the load and the receiver. For multiple LTL (less-than-truckload) loads the driver might stop at multiple facilities and unload a handful of pallets at each.

This would be more likely for smaller-format discount retail like, e.g., the Dollar Store or a restaurant supply chain.

Re: Self-driving trucks begin mail delivery test for U.S. Postal Service

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Reminds me of when I attended an event in Paris, France and they had a robot bartender. I was there during the day when they were setting up and it took a team of 3 engineers ~8 hours to set up vs just paying a bartender for the 3 hours + an hour's setup time that the evening cocktail reception lasted. I understand they organisers wanted something cool, but it was comical to observe nonetheless. [Edit: punctuation]

There's a chain of hotels (Yotel) that is known in part for its robot that will stow luggage the hotel is holding for you. In practice, the staff mostly stows your luggage like every place else because the robot doesn't have anything like the throughput you need at busy times.

The flipside to it is, during slow hours you still have the robot at the ready to help the odd guest. The robot just sitting there generates virtually no costs (bar the minuscule amount of electricity to maintain situational awareness), while at the same time freeing humans to do more important tasks. Which may very well be family and social life.

Re: Self-driving trucks begin mail delivery test for U.S. Postal Service

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IIRC the movie Space Camp (80s?) features a mail-robot, perhaps the kid hides in it?

There's one in the show The Americans , as well.

With the Soviets putting a recording device into the one driving through the FBI's office.

Such an odd thing that it might as well have happened, sadly I never managed to find any real history behind it.

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