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SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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The information is spotty but from what I gather it seems someone (SimpleCDN) took the "unlimited bandwidth" claims on 100tb.com a little bit too literally - and tried to build a business around them.

The question remains why a supposed infrastructure company thought it'd be a good idea to rely on a single other company to provide their... infrastructure.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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post #2

The information is spotty but from what I gather it seems someone (SimpleCDN) took the "unlimited bandwidth" claims on 100tb.com a little bit too literally - and tried to build a business around them. The question remains why a supposed infrastructure company thought it'd be a good idea to rely on a single other company to provide their... infrastructure.

I hope that's the case, honestly, and I hope that it does go to court. I'm frankly sick and tired of the 'unlimited' advertising model, wherein unlimited really means limited to some arbitrary amount that is not disclosed.

As a customer who has been kicked off of a number of unlimited hosting services for a site that only does ~30Gb or so in traffic in a month, I'd love to see hard limits advertised rather than 'unlimited'.

I know that Dreamhost oversells on purpose, and that's fine, but I think they can still do that (though perhaps not quite as effectively) by just stating their upper limit. Of course, this means that more people are likely to hit or approach that upper limit, but at least they'll know when they need to grow into another 'slice' as it were, or whether or not to relocate from Dreamhost altogether.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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On a side note, I haven't heard a single good thing from anyone about the ISP in question. One of their brands, VPS.NET, was an absolute nightmare and almost tanked the launch of one of our projects. A friend who made the mistake of going with them as well, had nothing but headaches. The main issues were reliability and poor customer care.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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post #2

The information is spotty but from what I gather it seems someone (SimpleCDN) took the "unlimited bandwidth" claims on 100tb.com a little bit too literally - and tried to build a business around them. The question remains why a supposed infrastructure company thought it'd be a good idea to rely on a single other company to provide their... infrastructure.

If that's the case, maybe both parties are at fault. Claiming availability of 'unlimited bandwidth' is just as naive as believing in it.

In any case, I don't understand why the ISP wouldn't choose to send any communication about the termination. Seems like reckless behaviour.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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It's all a little bit silly.

Everyone knows 100TB can't afford you to use the included bandwidth.

When you start actually using your bandwidth then you cut into their profits and they'll want to get rid of you.

When you start actually using the bandwidth _and_ undercut their own CDN using their _resold_ infrastructure, then they're losing out twice.

It's important to remember that UK2 = OnApp/UK2/Midphase/VPS.NET/100TB/Hosting Services Inc/etc/etc. UK2 doesn't own much infrastructure, they're just a reseller and overseller.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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post #3
post #2

The information is spotty but from what I gather it seems someone (SimpleCDN) took the "unlimited bandwidth" claims on 100tb.com a little bit too literally - and tried to build a business around them. The question remains why a supposed infrastructure company thought it'd be a good idea to rely on a single other company to provide their... infrastructure.

I hope that's the case, honestly, and I hope that it does go to court. I'm frankly sick and tired of the 'unlimited' advertising model, wherein unlimited really means limited to some arbitrary amount that is not disclosed. As a customer who has been kicked off of a number of unlimited hosting services for a site that only does ~30Gb or so in traffic in a month, I'd love to see hard limits advertised rather than 'unli…

Dreamhost however is very open about the type of `best effort, use what you like` model.

Compare the claims on http://vps.net/ to the reality of http://status.vps.net/

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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post #2

The information is spotty but from what I gather it seems someone (SimpleCDN) took the "unlimited bandwidth" claims on 100tb.com a little bit too literally - and tried to build a business around them. The question remains why a supposed infrastructure company thought it'd be a good idea to rely on a single other company to provide their... infrastructure.

Presumably because they could sell bandwidth below market price? This would also explain why they aren't scrambling to put up alternate data centers, but instead sending their customers over to MaxCDN.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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post #3
post #2

The information is spotty but from what I gather it seems someone (SimpleCDN) took the "unlimited bandwidth" claims on 100tb.com a little bit too literally - and tried to build a business around them. The question remains why a supposed infrastructure company thought it'd be a good idea to rely on a single other company to provide their... infrastructure.

I hope that's the case, honestly, and I hope that it does go to court. I'm frankly sick and tired of the 'unlimited' advertising model, wherein unlimited really means limited to some arbitrary amount that is not disclosed. As a customer who has been kicked off of a number of unlimited hosting services for a site that only does ~30Gb or so in traffic in a month, I'd love to see hard limits advertised rather than 'unli…

Personally, I think pay-for-use models a la Tarsnap and NearlyFreeSpeech.net are quite fair. I suppose most people will be put off by "mental transaction costs", though.

Re: SimpleCDN has been effectively kicked off the Internet by its ISPs w/o warning

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As you would expect unmetered bandwidth from 100TB is truly unmetered and unshared, with no limits and no small print. Unmetered servers use exactly the same SoftLayer network as their 100TB equivalents and are fitted with 1000Mbit ports.

Hosting plans page though has:

Unmetered Bandwidth (324TB) add $399 / month

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