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Paranoia will destroy us: Why Huawei and other Chinese tech is not spying

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Re: Paranoia will destroy us: Why Huawei and other Chinese tech is not spying

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I view this kind of caution against foreign powers (corporations are not separate from their governments in time of war) in the same way that the 2nd amendment protects us against tyranny.

And seatbelts from flying through wind shields.

You don't need it until you need it, and if you don't have it, it's too late.

National infrastructure that needs to work in a time of war must be nationally controlled by all nations.

"Spying" is a straw man argument, it's not about spying.

Re: Paranoia will destroy us: Why Huawei and other Chinese tech is not spying

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It's fairly well known in the telecom and internet infrastructure field that Huawei stole Nortel's entire DWDM and optical transport product line and duplicated it. The ex Nortel HQ office building in the Ottawa area was found to be riddled with high tech bugs.

Re: Paranoia will destroy us: Why Huawei and other Chinese tech is not spying

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One point that I'm missing, is that the government of China can legally force any of their companies to start spying. And there would be no way that we would know.

Then often the argument becomes: But the US are already spying on us, so it's not too bad. Which is fair, but in the US, there are checks and balances and freedoms so that somebody has recourse. All these things are absent in China.

So the question is one of trust. Who do you trust more when they are spying on you: The US or China? For me as a European, this is definitely the former.

Re: Paranoia will destroy us: Why Huawei and other Chinese tech is not spying

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It surprise me that people take those allegations seriously. I mean, some spying is to be expected but not to justify the banning of all the company.

I thought it was obvious that this have nothing to do with spying. Some elements in the USA government and legislative have decided that China could be a threat to American only superpower status.

By the way, what happened with the Bloomberg allegations? (1)

(1) - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-h...

Re: Paranoia will destroy us: Why Huawei and other Chinese tech is not spying

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One point that I'm missing, is that the government of China can legally force any of their companies to start spying. And there would be no way that we would know. Then often the argument becomes: But the US are already spying on us, so it's not too bad. Which is fair, but in the US, there are checks and balances and freedoms so that somebody has recourse. All these things are absent in China. So the question is one…

"there are checks and balances and freedoms"

you are so full of child like innocence, I envy you

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