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Why Google's $400 Pixel 3a convinced me to never again buy a $1000 smartphone

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Re: Why Google's $400 Pixel 3a convinced me to never again buy a $1000 smartphone

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I’d like a new post a year from now, telling us how the phone overall has aged. And another after 18 months.

Another big one is resale value. I can be sure that my iPhone depreciates at give or take AUD$200/year and there will be people that would buy it.

With something like this the resale value tends to tank pretty quickly and becomes difficult to sell.

Re: Why Google's $400 Pixel 3a convinced me to never again buy a $1000 smartphone

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Pixel 2+ have an equivalent to the iPhone's Secure Enclave: https://www.blog.google/products/pixel/titan-m-makes-pixel-3... But honestly, the government will either shoulder-surf your PIN code or make you unlock it with your finger, or just snatch the phone from you while its unlocked. They bought an exploit to unlock the San Bernardino phone, but they only really needed to do that because the owner was dead and…

>make you unlock it with your finger https://www.zdnet.com/article/police-cant-force-us-citizens-... Another ruling: https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2019/05/10/the-u...

This is not at all settled law, so it is not safe to assume the government can't force you to provide biometric decryption data.

https://reason.com/2019/01/15/search-warrants-and-compelled-...

https://observer.com/2019/05/police-force-unlock-phones-nj-s...

Re: Why Google's $400 Pixel 3a convinced me to never again buy a $1000 smartphone

#43

My issue remains privacy. I can’t help but feel that every swipe and key I type into an Android will be added to some profile on me.

Couldn’t you setup a g-suite profile, and use that? I mean it would cost you money, but I’m not sure where you can find privacy and ownership for free these days.

Re: Why Google's $400 Pixel 3a convinced me to never again buy a $1000 smartphone

#44

My issue remains privacy. I can’t help but feel that every swipe and key I type into an Android will be added to some profile on me.

You may already know about this since it comes up a lot on HN but I am keeping an eye on https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/ development for this reason.

While this is great, I'd rather have a cheaper phone, less than $150.

Not to brag but I'm dying for a low end open smartphone, with the same concept of the raspberry pi.

Re: Why Google's $400 Pixel 3a convinced me to never again buy a $1000 smartphone

#46

I’d like a new post a year from now, telling us how the phone overall has aged. And another after 18 months.

Another big one is resale value. I can be sure that my iPhone depreciates at give or take AUD$200/year and there will be people that would buy it. With something like this the resale value tends to tank pretty quickly and becomes difficult to sell.

Why does this even matter? Resale value is just interesting if you don't plan to use a product to its fullest and maybe till its death.

Choosing phones by looking at how much you can make of it a year from now is part of the problem this world faces.

Re: Why Google's $400 Pixel 3a convinced me to never again buy a $1000 smartphone

#47
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Pixel 2+ have an equivalent to the iPhone's Secure Enclave: https://www.blog.google/products/pixel/titan-m-makes-pixel-3... But honestly, the government will either shoulder-surf your PIN code or make you unlock it with your finger, or just snatch the phone from you while its unlocked. They bought an exploit to unlock the San Bernardino phone, but they only really needed to do that because the owner was dead and…

>make you unlock it with your finger https://www.zdnet.com/article/police-cant-force-us-citizens-... Another ruling: https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2019/05/10/the-u...

They will drug you and beat you to shit until you unlock it.

Wonder why you are so naive and think that they won't do bad things if they are _really_ interested into getting into your phone.

Re: Why Google's $400 Pixel 3a convinced me to never again buy a $1000 smartphone

#48
My son wanted a Pixel to replace his iPhone but wouldn't buy one because like Apple it didn't have a headphone jack to enable him to use it in his car for music. He bought a Huawei instead.

I am not yet ready to replace my iPhoneSE but I'll be going Android as well - and if Google will provide a headphone jack they are in the running, but ONLY if they provide a headphone jack.

Re: Why Google's $400 Pixel 3a convinced me to never again buy a $1000 smartphone

#49
I swore off the Pixel lines when Google gave up on the flagship-beating Nexus. Seriously, try explaining to your parents that they'll be getting a worse camera than what was in the Nexus 5X if they want to stay at the $400AUD mark. Hopefully now I can point to the 3a as an option, although it's $650AUD here.

Re: Why Google's $400 Pixel 3a convinced me to never again buy a $1000 smartphone

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another big one is resale value. I can be sure that my iPhone depreciates at give or take AUD$200/year and there will be people that would buy it. With something like this the resale value tends to tank pretty quickly and becomes difficult to sell.

Why does this even matter? Resale value is just interesting if you don't plan to use a product to its fullest and maybe till its death. Choosing phones by looking at how much you can make of it a year from now is part of the problem this world faces.

Initial investment being offset by resale price is a better reflection of overall cost which would make someone make a more informed decision.

But, erm, this is more about recycling.

Device reuse (and a market for second hand electronics) is actually something beneficial to the world, not something harmful. It affects repair economics.

For what it’s worth I imagine this device’s EOL would be less than an iPhones too, where there is still a market (and software updates) for the five year old iPhone 6.

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