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What do you think the chances are that Facebook actually does any delete operation on their data? I'm sure this is simply marking it as hidden in their database. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but to me the only way to take back something you say on social media, is to never have posted it in the first place.
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Last I remember it was supposed to be a good software engineering practice to never actually delete data from database but just mark it as deleted.
GDPR has changed this. FWIW I’ve seen comments from a privacy engineer at google who posted here and said they actually do work hard to delete your data. I’d expect Facebook and google to successfully delete the data (after giving 3-6 months for backups to age out) but wouldn’t trust most smaller operations to do so. And yeah, that doesn’t mean ML models or whatever but just the retrievable copies of your photos and…
That's a far, far cry from the reality of "possibly prosecutable in EU in some scenarios." We aren't even using a website right now that's in GDPR jurisdiction. But there's also a weird fetishization of GDPR I've noticed where people invoke it like "heh, my dad works for Xbox. just you wait buddy, he'll have you banned."
I want the ability to delete everything after some period of time. Every message I send, every message I receive, I want it all to work like conversation -- not contracts.
I don't want someone digging up an email from the past where I said something stupid in a moment of anger, or frustration. If all tech worked like Snap Chat, or Signal, I'd be really happy.
I have no trust that Facebook actually deletes anything. Guessing anyone who tries to delete things actually flags the user and then their team of Zucks go in and look at the juicy content you were trying to delete... seems like 5 years from now, Facebook will charge for the "not have anything dumb you said in your 20s show up in public search" feature. Cool. Cool, cool, cool.
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Last I remember it was supposed to be a good software engineering practice to never actually delete data from database but just mark it as deleted.
GDPR has changed this. FWIW I’ve seen comments from a privacy engineer at google who posted here and said they actually do work hard to delete your data. I’d expect Facebook and google to successfully delete the data (after giving 3-6 months for backups to age out) but wouldn’t trust most smaller operations to do so. And yeah, that doesn’t mean ML models or whatever but just the retrievable copies of your photos and…
For the first few hours, I see new default youtube suggestions. After a few days, I see a lot of old search/view videos pop back to the youtube home page. YT still seems "suggested" videos for me to watch base on the past viewing info.
I don't trust the "delete" button to scrub it from FB's database. I'd be slightly more confident ( slightly ) that editing the post might cause the core data in the db to be updated, however. In which case, I think the more effective script would be one that goes through all of your FB posts and scrambles them, or replaces the text with gibberish.
I wrote a similar tool in Node a while back that can delete by year and category: https://github.com/spieglt/fb-delete And one to download all "Photos of you", which Facebook doesn't include when downloading your data: https://github.com/spieglt/fb-photos
I hate the pic attrition on Facebook. As people unfriend me or delete albums, some of the best moments captured of my life are erased. They really should be included in the archive download and more strongly link to your account.
I don't trust the "delete" button to scrub it from FB's database. I'd be slightly more confident ( slightly ) that editing the post might cause the core data in the db to be updated, however. In which case, I think the more effective script would be one that goes through all of your FB posts and scrambles them, or replaces the text with gibberish.
Something like this is probably against some terms of use that you implicitly agree to as a Facebook user, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they would auto detect it and ban you.
I don't trust the "delete" button to scrub it from FB's database. I'd be slightly more confident ( slightly ) that editing the post might cause the core data in the db to be updated, however. In which case, I think the more effective script would be one that goes through all of your FB posts and scrambles them, or replaces the text with gibberish.
Something like this is probably against some terms of use that you implicitly agree to as a Facebook user, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they would auto detect it and ban you.
What do you think the chances are that Facebook actually does any delete operation on their data? I'm sure this is simply marking it as hidden in their database. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but to me the only way to take back something you say on social media, is to never have posted it in the first place.
There are a million reasons to agree that the data is never actually deleted * need to retain data to fulfill government requests * internal auditing * it's all backed up in some "data lake" somewhere to do internal ml or analytics on * hundreds of copies in database backups from different times * internal logs that contain the data * it's already been analyzed and aggregated into learning products and models that ar…