So it's a replacement for `make` with some fanciness thrown in?
Seems okay. Not sure I'd use it, but the model is proven. If it's a true improvement, it'd be nice.
Show HN: Oya – New projects set up lightning fast
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Re: Show HN: Oya – New projects set up lightning fast
#72There’s too much obfuscation of what this software does. “New projects set up lightning fast” makes me think this is a generator framework like https://yeoman.io/ but the examples show an abstraction around bash snippets for running tasks. It does seem to do both things but only after a bit of digging; and it’s still not clear what kind of experience I’ll have using packs. To make the homepage compelling, I suggest;…
> There’s too much obfuscation of what this software does. “New projects set up lightning fast” makes me think this is a generator framework like https://yeoman.io/
Wow, how did you guess that it was even in the ballpark of yeoman?
> New projects set up lightning fast ... Oya with its ecosystem of powerful, reusable packs lets you bootstrap deployable projects without a hassle.
AFAICT this could describe work in virtually any programming domain. Who doesn't create new projects or need them to be deployable?
Re: Show HN: Oya – New projects set up lightning fast
#73Quoting a testimonial on the website by the co-founder of Tooploox is not really a thing, right? Tooploox is the creator of Oya.
It was created as an independent open source project, then used internally @ Tooploox, then development got sponsored by Tooploox so it does make sense from our (very subjective) pov. But I agree AFTER it got moved to Tooploox Github it looks kinda self-serving.
Thanks for the history lesson, but that history is missing from your website. Others may have the same thinking as I have without the history lesson.
Re: Show HN: Oya – New projects set up lightning fast
#74This is really just a Makefile in yaml without lots of the features and the milions of support articles.
Looks like it's just just.
Re: Show HN: Oya – New projects set up lightning fast
#75I went through most of the documentation but I still don't understand how this will help me in any way. I don't understand what it is? > Become a hero Marketing jargon like this is IMO very tiring. I am a hero because I use your product? Ok, I guess that is a very loose definition of that word. I don't want to be negative really, but I have actually no clue what this product does or what problem it solves.
Honestly there's been so many "save time and spend it writing code that matters" tools hitting the HN front page in the past year that I've just tuned them out.
Re: Show HN: Oya – New projects set up lightning fast
#76I don’t like to go meta, but this is the meanest response to a Show HN I’ve seen in a while. Almost every comment is a reason why it sucks or a random nitpick. If you don’t have anything nice to say, just don’t say anything at all.
This comment makes no sense. Show HN is supposed to gather feedback, not "likes".
If you don't want honest feedback, then why bother posting here? I find people take honest criticism as personal attacks way too often. Nothing criticized here detracts from what they've done. If this was my product, I'd be super happy that I got this huge list of things to improve out of a single post.
Compare that to a few "weeeeee, it's nice!" comments.
If you want empty happy feedback, share it on Facebook.
Re: Show HN: Oya – New projects set up lightning fast
#77I went through most of the documentation but I still don't understand how this will help me in any way. I don't understand what it is? > Become a hero Marketing jargon like this is IMO very tiring. I am a hero because I use your product? Ok, I guess that is a very loose definition of that word. I don't want to be negative really, but I have actually no clue what this product does or what problem it solves.
I have to agree here. Out of all the things I've seen, the hero part was the only one that made me cringe.
Other than that, I couldn't figure out much of what this product can offer me. For a while I thought it was yet another NodeJS kind of framework for bootstrapping the millions of other frameworks there.
Re: Show HN: Oya – New projects set up lightning fast
#78It's really frustrating to read about a sw product and not understand what it does. idk if I'm dumb, or it's a generation gap. Is this oya thing so complex it cannot be described in a way a fellow developer could understand?
Re: Show HN: Oya – New projects set up lightning fast
#79There’s too much obfuscation of what this software does. “New projects set up lightning fast” makes me think this is a generator framework like https://yeoman.io/ but the examples show an abstraction around bash snippets for running tasks. It does seem to do both things but only after a bit of digging; and it’s still not clear what kind of experience I’ll have using packs. To make the homepage compelling, I suggest;…
For good examples (IMHO) of the above consult https://zeit.co/now
Re: Show HN: Oya – New projects set up lightning fast
#80I like this and I see the need for it, being a long time Make user and supporter. Will give this a try.
What uses are you seeing for it that the rest of us aren’t? I’m genuinely interested because their marketing makes it super challenging to see what the product is useful for.
Standard way of sharing project templates (scaffolding). Might be useful on systems based on micro services and serverless. I don’t see much value in the task runner part of it, though.