Is this a make reimplementation
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#42What if we could have examples on our homepage that actually made the product seem useful in some way...
That’s like 99% of software these days. So frustrating.
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#43Just use docker.
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#44There’s too much obfuscation of what this software does. “New projects set up lightning fast” makes me think this is a generator framework like https://yeoman.io/ but the examples show an abstraction around bash snippets for running tasks. It does seem to do both things but only after a bit of digging; and it’s still not clear what kind of experience I’ll have using packs. To make the homepage compelling, I suggest;…
Fantastic suggestions! Thank you so much for taking the time! We'll definitely going to take them into account and revise the home page. Good stuff!
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#45Is this a make reimplementation
I guess, with a oneline description like that, I expected a project minter like cookiecutter or dzil new (or yeoman), but the more I read, the more this looks like make without the dependency resolver
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
It feels like a header called “why this is better than GNU Make” should be somewhere in there. With the provided example, it looks like Oya does less than POSIX Make (which is significantly less powerful than either BSD or GNU Make).
They do mention this in their documentation now, but don’t offer any concrete examples of where it can even compete with Make. > If you’re familiar with Makefiles, you may have noticed some similarity here. The main difference is because we’re using standard YAML files, is the pipe character after task name. An added bonus you don’t have to use tabs. :> > If all Oya offered was poor-man’s Makefiles, you’d better find…
This is a very good point.
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#47How does this add anything to my process compared to npm tasks, that do the automated work right now, together with out Gitlab CI system?
Not everybody uses JavaScript. There are many language-specific task runners (e.g. Rake, Mage etc.). Oya is aiming to be language agnostic and lightweight (not require a ton of dependencies).
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#48Is this a make reimplementation
No. But it's a very valuable question; it shows we clearly have a problem with making it clear.
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#49I went through most of the documentation but I still don't understand how this will help me in any way. I don't understand what it is? > Become a hero Marketing jargon like this is IMO very tiring. I am a hero because I use your product? Ok, I guess that is a very loose definition of that word. I don't want to be negative really, but I have actually no clue what this product does or what problem it solves.
You're not being negative, that's super useful feedback. We're using Oya internally but are still struggling with making it 100% (or even 80%:) clear what it is that it does. :)
It's best balanced with the feedback of people that have the opposite opinion. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Being a hero is ingrained into our culture, and I think comic book culture is a net win for society, but if you hate comic books and seeing the term hero bandied about, that's fine. To each their own. But I will never be annoyed by it.
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#50What if we could have examples on our homepage that actually made the product seem useful in some way...
Thanks, I appreciate the honest feedback! We'll try better.