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Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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By LE capable firmware you mean that the FBI had a backdoor to eavesdrop? Wow.

Yes indeed [0]. [0] https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/10000/10008/fe...

Doesn’t seem like a backdoor AFIACT—just support for handling a request from the government. (Distinction being that the ISP manually tells their equipment to intercept data instead of the government having technical access.)

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Will Huawei still have access to TSMC, Samsung fabs etc? I think Hardware should be more of an issue for them than software. Chinese phones already use some alternative to play store iirc.

It appears they're only losing access to American hardware and software. So that would mean Android, Gorilla Glass screens, Qualcomm processors, etc.

Minor correction: It doesn't mean "Android", it means Google services.

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This isn't surprising. What the US government wants the government gets. I was working for a large ISP in 2010-2011 and we were considering long haul transport gear between Huawei and Infinera. All things being equal Huawei had a better cost/performance value prop. That was, until the FBI came in with a heavy handed opinion. You see at that point in time the best place to siphon data was at large ingress/egress. As I…

What most people forget is that in a war the other party shoots back. It may take some time but it will happen and sometimes when you do not expect it. I think that Trump's move with banning Huawei is bad for the US in the mid and long run.

Would any down voters care to expand?

The assertion that there's going to be consequences seems... inevitable? To me at least.

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What about the ARM license? Sure they design their own processors but that doesn't help if ARM doesn't let them use the instruction set.

Arm Holdings is a British company and United Kingdom' relations with Huawei is complicated matter.

Arm was bought by Softbank, which is Japanese, so still doesn't improve potential relations.

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The bigger issue is that the nature of smart phone releases is that each time you want to bring out a new model, you need to employ a few tens of thousands of people for a relatively short time to assemble them. This isn't possible in most countries due to labour laws and/or shortage of workers.

tesla is starting to automate car manufacturing and seems to be making progress. can you comment on the feasibility on automating smartphone manufacturing? do elements of smartphone manufacturing render automation intractable, or harder than car manufacturing?

“Yes, excessive automation at Tesla was a mistake,” Musk said via Twitter a few months ago. “To be precise, my mistake. Humans are underrated.”

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If you’re Chinese, having another domestic platform is a good and important thing towards self determination. Not so great if you’re American, as they’re playing for winner-takes-all.

"is a good and important thing towards self determination" This is a lark? The only thing the CPC is interested in is total and absolute control of the citizenry. They'd love to have a platform for which they didn't have to monitor with gazillions of staff, and have police on corners to ensure 'government monitoring' is properly installed. Imagine if the CPC could ensure total thought control without all the overhead…

> Why isn't the entire world using software or hosted solutions for all of our SaaS needs in India and China?

Because the tech has been developed in the US, and the US has lead in it ever since.

> Given that the existential nature of the Chinese economy is intertwined with the CPC, I don't think any good will come of this.

I mean, the article being discussed here shows that US corporations are tools of US foreign policy. Yes, it's a different style of control, but it's control nonetheless.

And before the notorious flaggers run wild: I don't like the Chinese model. I don't particularly like the US model either though. I'm not judging those that profit from it for also liking it. I'm sure I would, too.

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