Nets on the outlets of drainage pipes save waterways from pollution • Hacker News Board

Re: Nets on the outlets of drainage pipes save waterways from pollution

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Post by porjo » Sun, May 19, 2019, 10:23 PM UTC

jamesb93 wrote: post #11

pojzon wrote: post #5

What a weird country, on the one hand they want to save environment from plastic pollution. On the other one tho.. invest in coal power plants, which will only make drought issues bigger.

Trust me, a lot of Australians hate the current leadership and would love to see them gone. Unfortunately we are tending towards the trial version of USA.

As the recent federal election clearly demonstrated, the proportion of Australians who 'hate the current leadership' is a lot smaller than previously imagined.

Re: Nets on the outlets of drainage pipes save waterways from pollution

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Post by danielharan » Sun, May 19, 2019, 10:25 PM UTC

sydmeyer wrote: post #8

This merely puts the plastic pollution somewhere else (into a dump near the ocean most likely), so it doesn’t really save anything. The problem is still the production of the materials in the first place.

Sorry, that's just ludicrous.

Putting plastic in a dump is much better than letting it kill animal after animal, decomposing into smaller pieces and getting into the food chain.

Ideally we design most plastics out, but barring that recycling would be fine - and just burying it is still much better than either burning or letting it drift into oceans.

Re: Nets on the outlets of drainage pipes save waterways from pollution

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Post by vermilingua » Sun, May 19, 2019, 10:27 PM UTC

azinman2 wrote: post #14

jamesb93 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trust me, a lot of Australians hate the current leadership and would love to see them gone. Unfortunately we are tending towards the trial version of USA.

But didn’t the public just vote for coal?

“The public” just voted in a popularity contest. “The public” doesn’t give a shit about coal.

Re: Nets on the outlets of drainage pipes save waterways from pollution

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Post by Xylakant » Sun, May 19, 2019, 10:27 PM UTC

azinman2 wrote: post #15

Xylakant wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Western countries export most of their plastic waste to the countries named in the article. Substantial amounts of the plastics China spills into the ocean are ours, exported there for “recycling”

But who puts them into the water?

We ship our low grade plastic waste there well knowing what will happen with it.

Re: Nets on the outlets of drainage pipes save waterways from pollution

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Post by porjo » Sun, May 19, 2019, 10:28 PM UTC

treelovinhippie wrote: post #20

Australian. I've seen this circle the internet many times, but I've never seen one in the wild at any beach or river outlet.

Not suprising given the article only mentions one city council doing this.

Re: Nets on the outlets of drainage pipes save waterways from pollution

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Post by porjo » Sun, May 19, 2019, 10:30 PM UTC

vermilingua wrote: post #23

azinman2 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But didn’t the public just vote for coal?

“The public” just voted in a popularity contest. “The public” doesn’t give a shit about coal.

Unless you live in Townsville, Queensland which currently has high unemployment and a new coal mine scheduled to be constructed nearby.

Re: Nets on the outlets of drainage pipes save waterways from pollution

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Post by sv7n » Sun, May 19, 2019, 10:36 PM UTC

Wet garbage is extremely heavy and hard to clean up. These socks typically require heavy equipment to remove/maintain. These filters also only work well in very specific drain configurations. Not as effective as the article suggests.

Re: Nets on the outlets of drainage pipes save waterways from pollution

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Post by robbiep » Sun, May 19, 2019, 10:37 PM UTC

treelovinhippie wrote: post #20

Australian. I've seen this circle the internet many times, but I've never seen one in the wild at any beach or river outlet.

These have been over the runoff drains around bondi, tama, bronte and coogee for as long as I can remember (at least 10 years) so I’m surprised this is being reported as ‘new’

Re: Nets on the outlets of drainage pipes save waterways from pollution

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Post by jeremyvisser » Sun, May 19, 2019, 10:42 PM UTC

treelovinhippie wrote: post #20

Australian. I've seen this circle the internet many times, but I've never seen one in the wild at any beach or river outlet.

There's a rather fancy one in North Strathfield in Powells Creek at coordinates: -33.8586891, 151.0842781

Re: Nets on the outlets of drainage pipes save waterways from pollution

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Post by dang » Sun, May 19, 2019, 10:47 PM UTC

danielharan wrote: post #22

sydmeyer wrote: post #8

This merely puts the plastic pollution somewhere else (into a dump near the ocean most likely), so it doesn’t really save anything. The problem is still the production of the materials in the first place.

Sorry, that's just ludicrous. Putting plastic in a dump is much better than letting it kill animal after animal, decomposing into smaller pieces and getting into the food chain. Ideally we design most plastics out, but barring that recycling would be fine - and just burying it is still much better than either burning or letting it drift into oceans.

Your comment's great, except for the first sentence, which is what the site guidelines refer to as calling names in arguments. Would you mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and editing those bits out of your HN comments in the future?

I know it seems small, but it has a downgrading effect on conversation. Also, it often doesn't seem small to the person being addressed that way (or some other readers who happen upon it).