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Post by peterwwillis »

Zarath wrote: post #170
peterwwillis wrote: post #103

I know this is a negative comment, but this whole thing smacks of a weird form of entitlement. Here's this dude making money by putting videos on the internet, and when his videos go away, he's outraged. But if you look at it another way, his living is based on a platform which provides him no guarantee of service, no support, and is also free of charge. His whole job is to generate attention for a platform that mine…

> " Here's this dude making money by putting videos on the internet, and when his videos go away, he's outraged." Ok? And everyone working at Youtube is making money off of the videos he makes and puts on the internet. That's how society works.

That's how shitty parts of society work. An organization creates a monopoly platform to generate revenue, and then exploits content producers. Yes, our society has multiple examples of exploitative marketplaces. That doesn't make it okay.

But also, complaining has never helped! As multiple people have commented here, they have no incentive to change! The one thing that does force change is competition, and there is basically no competition.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by tomatotomato37 »

RubberbandSoul wrote: post #8
mdorazio wrote: post #2

The question to me when these stories come up at least once a month is: Why would YouTube want to fix this? YouTube as a platform for generating revenue has largely become the domain of large media companies and top personalities. Those entities have a vested interest in keeping the copyright claim system exactly as it is, and YouTube has a vested interest in keeping those entities happy. I think we've long since pas…

I think you answered your own question. YouTube is running the risk of turning into a sterile, corporate mall. Soon enough an edgier, more tolerant alternative will pop up and start attracting eyeballs.

What's the current consensus of LiveLeaks being the edgier alternative?

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by chris_wot »

sam0x17 wrote: post #173
colejohnson66 wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A 10 second clip of a movie isn’t necessarily fair use; It’s decided on a case by case basis. You can use as much as you need to get your point across; No more. If that’s 10 seconds, you can use 10 seconds. If that’s a minute, you can use a minute.

But if Google's lawyers took a stance on this, they could use precedent to set defined rules for what actually counts as fair use and all these claimants would be fucked.

Or they could lose. Courts don’t like it when someone games fair use.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by OrgNet »

marcinzm wrote: post #161
OrgNet wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The problem is with the youtube's implementation it is not.. it is with the existing laws

Our laws are the implementation of copyright I’m talking about and are distinct from the concept of copyright.

I understand that but I was not replying to you initially... we were talking about youtube's implementation of copyright law

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by paulddraper »

Animats wrote: post #145

False claim of copyright is a criminal offense in the US. While prosecutions are extremely rare, they have happened. It is worth getting a lawyer to help you file a formal complaint with the US Department of Justice. While the odds of criminal prosecution are low, there's a good chance paperwork from a US Attorney's office asking some questions will be sent to the offender. That will reach their legal people, and som…

But these are Youtube complaints, not DMCA complaints.

Virtually no consequence.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by makecheck »

Why do we have push-button screw-people-over systems at all?

If the problem is that there are “too many” things for companies to review manually, too bad! If a company is perfectly fine raking in money from massive sales at a global scale, they should be willing to spend a proportional amount of money to do business at that scale. Let them hire their own people to review content in depth. Let them hire their own goons to send legal notices. (We certainly need more jobs for people.)

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Post by kd5bjo »

cameronbrown wrote: post #175
inlined wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MatPat of Game Theory & Film Theory says that his YouTube rep explained the company has a categorization internally for video game accounts, which means they can never be part of the VIP category.

I don't understand why popularity, not the type of content, isn't what makes you VIP?

Any VIP program works on the (perceived) social standing that comes from (perceived) exclusivity. YouTube doesn’t want to alienate the traditional celebrities with ties to big media companies; part of that means stocking the VIP pool with only people that those celebrities consider to be their peers.

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by NeedMoreTea »

nate_meurer wrote: post #167
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Black tea will never brew properly at 85° - personally I'd throw that gnat's pee away and try and get it right the second time. As near to 100 as you can manage, which means warm the pot or mug first - though most don't. Pot with loose leaf is much preferable. Let it brew to taste.

Yeah, it's kind of hit or miss at restaurants. The Chart House that I frequent is good at bringing boiling hot water, but they have only one tea-drinking waitress who always makes sure the cups she brings out are hot. The little tea shop near my house always brings everything hot, of course. How do you feel about steeping times? There are some green teas that get nasty if I steep too long, but otherwise, for me, stro…

No, I don't time it - and I also prefer it good and strong. I suppose it roughly works out at 5 mins in a pot with loose leaf, and I'd guess around 3 mins with a teabag. Shorter as tea bag tea is so much nearer dust. Just not so long as to let it get stewed.

Green tea and some of the lighter black teas - like Darjeeling - definitely prefer a bit less time. Lapsang souchong seems to magically avoid stewing no matter how long you leave it. :)

Re: “A company is copyright-claiming every video I have ever made”

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Post by IAmGraydon »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #14
RubberbandSoul wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you answered your own question. YouTube is running the risk of turning into a sterile, corporate mall. Soon enough an edgier, more tolerant alternative will pop up and start attracting eyeballs.

YT is running the risk of its content creators organising themselves into an industry association with legal and financial teeth, and suing its profits into oblivion.

On what grounds? I disagree with Youtube’s actions here, but no one is forcing them to publish on YT.
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