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Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#81

Huawei already saw this coming; at least that's what the company signaled last march when they announced they have a 'backup OS': https://www.engadget.com/amp/2019/03/14/huawei-confirms-os/

If it is an optimized version of Linux, then they should just release it. It will probably be better than Android.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#82

Sad to see as they make some compelling phones with outrageously great prices[0]. I used to think about the privacy problems with buying a chinese phone but this day and age where facebook is selling your data to the highest bidder and the fusion centers crawling all over our cellphone - who cares? I'd rather have the chinese have my data than the US companies/gov't(only because I will never visit their country), tho…

Xiaomi and Huawei are not the same company

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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post #72

I guess this is a thinly veiled attack on China, but I'm a bit confused why there's a feud between the US and China in the first place. Perhaps my ignorance is down to being British and a bit out of the loop, but could someone give a rough outline on what the underlying motives for this are?

There are many reasons, but there are two fundamental ones: Projections that the Chinese economy will overtake the US and Made in China 2025.

The first is easy to explain. The US likes being number 1, and if anyone else, whether the Chinese or the Japanese or the Indians looks like they're going to be number 1, the US doesn't like it.

The second is this: for the last 40-50 years, the US and China have been in a hugely mutually beneficial relationship, at least on the corporate level. American companies outsourced many of its lower wage lower skilled manufacturing to China and China has saved those companies a ton of money and made their owners a lot more profit. In order for China's economy to keep growing though, the Chinese believed, correctly, that they needed to move up the food chain since their labor is not as cheap as it once was. So they identified 10 "industries of the future" where they want their companies to dominate. American companies are, once again correctly, worried that since these are the industries that we would also like to dominate, that the Chinese, if they are successful, will literally eat our lunch.

There's a bunch of other stuff relating to the South China Sea, Taiwan, forced IP transfer, hacking, trade subsidies, etc. that are also causing tensions, but those two are probably the biggest ones.

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post #20

>the Chinese technology company that the U.S. government has sought to blacklist around the world Around the world?

In Germany it was in the news that US hinted that if we wouldn't participate in banning Huawei we are excluded from further sharing of intelligence and stuff like this. For 5G and T-Mobile i.e. Deutsche Telekom AG they basically said: Dare to buy Huawai and you gonna have a bad time.

It's these liberal and western high ethics at work here...

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The open source version of Android is still available. Why wouldn’t that be getting updates?

Will I, as a European customer of Huawei, still get app updates from Google Play and push messages via firebase cloud messaging? Without the Google framework my phone is a brick...

Yes, for your current phone. But the way I read it, Google won't support any further updates to the OS.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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post #72

I guess this is a thinly veiled attack on China, but I'm a bit confused why there's a feud between the US and China in the first place. Perhaps my ignorance is down to being British and a bit out of the loop, but could someone give a rough outline on what the underlying motives for this are?

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Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

#88

No more updates for my Huawei phone then presumably. Really feeling more secure now!

Your phone was manufactured by a front for a foreign intelligence service. It was never secure.

American-manufactured devices are probably equally as infiltrated by American foreign intelligence services. Hence why they don't just use a standard Linux distro with open source firmware.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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post #72

I guess this is a thinly veiled attack on China, but I'm a bit confused why there's a feud between the US and China in the first place. Perhaps my ignorance is down to being British and a bit out of the loop, but could someone give a rough outline on what the underlying motives for this are?

https://www.afr.com/technology/web/security/how-chinese-hack...

Huawei stole secrets from Nortel that eventually caused it to collapse, it only got worse from there. They've stolen IP from many other countries, and at this point the US is accusing them of not just stealing IP actual actually working with Chinese intelligence to make sure all Huawei devices can be hacked by China.

Your being British and out of the loop is pretty bad because your government is just as much of a target.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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post #82

Sad to see as they make some compelling phones with outrageously great prices[0]. I used to think about the privacy problems with buying a chinese phone but this day and age where facebook is selling your data to the highest bidder and the fusion centers crawling all over our cellphone - who cares? I'd rather have the chinese have my data than the US companies/gov't(only because I will never visit their country), tho…

Xiaomi and Huawei are not the same company

Sorry - mislinked. Still wouldn't be surprised if Xiaomi get's the banhammer from the US gov't though.
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