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Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Post by scarface74 »

angel_j wrote: post #22

All I know about Huawei is that they produced what seemed like at least half of welfware phones—the kind available to anybody on most any kind of welfare, including EBT—and these phones were utter garbage. Reasonably, one could say they had ripped off the government, these phones were such crap. Screen a .5mm pane of brittle glass that a tap could break. Barely ran android, laden with crapware, basically needed to be…

And this is different than almost all of the sub $100 phones sold through companies like MetroPCS?

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Post by onei »

philwelch wrote: post #50
plantain wrote: post #14

No more updates for my Huawei phone then presumably. Really feeling more secure now!

Your phone was manufactured by a front for a foreign intelligence service. It was never secure.

Just to play devil's advocate, do you have any citations for that statement?

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Post by neilv »

atomicUpdate wrote: post #42
neilv wrote: post #36

> has suspended business with Huawei that requires the transfer of hardware and software products except those covered by open source licenses, Could this nudge an interesting (good/bad) development in open source?

Why would this cause any change in open source at all? This is already the case for them in China.

For example, if party A wants party B using something S in particular, then S being being made "open source". And/or the accepted meanings&cultures of "open source" (or whatever the actual terminology is) changing, as A and S do their things.

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Post by goguy »

philwelch wrote: post #50
plantain wrote: post #14

No more updates for my Huawei phone then presumably. Really feeling more secure now!

Your phone was manufactured by a front for a foreign intelligence service. It was never secure.

Personally I would prefer it to be a foreign government rather than the one in charge of the country I reside in...

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Post by robert_foss »

scarface74 wrote: post #45
judge2020 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Otherwise, the article is good for showing the extent of the political situation. One might be able to stretch this to 'US aids potential cyber attacks in China' since phones in China might no longer receive security updates in Android.

The open source version of Android is still available. Why wouldn’t that be getting updates?

That part could, but the others couldn't. Including all apps shipped on Google Play.

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Post by Jolter »

theossuary wrote: post #52

I don't know anything about the supply chain for data center hardware, but it seems more likely that China would intercept shipments of say Cisco and Juniper gear and modify them (something the NSA has done) instead of building hardware with a backdoor in it? When you buy a Cisco router do they provide a "chain of custody" proving it didn't come from or go through hostile countries? I understand these routers have a…

This article is about Android software shipped from Google to Huawei. It does not mention data center hardware. (And in fact, I'm pretty sure Huawei are not even in the data center market. They supply telecommunications equipment and consumer electronics.

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Post by wozer »

robert_foss wrote: post #67
scarface74 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The open source version of Android is still available. Why wouldn’t that be getting updates?

That part could, but the others couldn't. Including all apps shipped on Google Play.

Do people in China even use the Google Playstore? (serious question)

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Post by im3w1l »

xfitm3 wrote: post #56
oldjokes wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The internet, at least as we knew it, is dead. What we have now is a highly segemented, highly federated, highly monitored, centralized communication network. The walls and the controls around access are getting more intricate every day, we've long ago left the idea of an open network in the trash can. It sure seems like the future is more and more walls, more and more reactionary defensive measures. Nobody seems to…

Seemingly more and more people want internet regulation. Nobody cares about things like free speech anymore, and actively campaign that it’s harmful.

It goes beyond freedom of speech.

For instance gdpr, copyright directive, tax laws (was a story the other day about you having to comply with a lot of local tax laws - consider what happens if you are unable or unwilling to comply with 1000s of special snowflake tax rules, presumably the authority rests on blocking).

These examples are not quite freedom of speech, but will lead to a breaking apart of the internet all the same.

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