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Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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>the Chinese technology company that the U.S. government has sought to blacklist around the world Around the world?

They appear to be working hard on having it blacklisted in the UK AFAICT. BBC Click did a report and a guy from GCHQ basically said "it's not a problem" whilst there seems to be a deal of press trying to push the political angle to make it politically expedient -- I can only assume that's a propaganda attempt by USA? I'm surprised that Huawei is such a threat to USA industry to be honest. Perhaps Trump's team has sha…

Well, Paul Singer, founder of Elliott Management, has donated to Trump, and Elliott has a large stake in Samsung.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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> Huawei Technologies Co Ltd will immediately lose access to updates to the Android operating system

Android security updates are part of AOSP [0]. The article explicitly mentions that Huawei still has access to Google’s OSS stuff. And besides, they couldn’t really block Huawei from accessing open-source stuff without making it closed-source or otherwise heavily restricted.

[0]: https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2019-05-01

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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I can't see any Chinese phone company feeling comfortable with this move. If someone sets up a viable non-US alternative to Android and the Play Store, they could jump ship en masse.

Lineage OS

Beats me why more manufacturers don't just take Lineage.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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I can't see any Chinese phone company feeling comfortable with this move. If someone sets up a viable non-US alternative to Android and the Play Store, they could jump ship en masse.

Lineage OS

Is the license still controllable by the US Commerce Department though? Because if so I don't think the Chinese would be interested

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If true, this is certainly a nuclear move. There's a variety of first party app stores in China, though I doubt they'll see much success convincing Western users to switch. Curious if there's going to be antitrust fallout from markets outside the US for unilaterally crippling vendors at behest of US foreign policy. Is Microsoft or Apple going to pull their app stores as well? What happened to project Dragon Fly? On t…

The biggest threat to Google in my opinion would be the possibility that Huawei and China could try to "steal" Android from them. Imagine in 2021 the Chinese government mandates that every Chinese smartphone manufacturer needs to switch to ChAndroid for all of their product lines, with a single unified app store, whether they sell the phones inside or outside of China. Well, fully half of the top smartphone companies…

> And if it were open...

An OS mandated by the Chinese government. That’s pretty much the opposite open in multiple ways.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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Instead of letting companies do international business, the government creates an artificial war. It only takes the Republican Party winning 1 election to destroy economic freedom. My political thoughts are going to change drastically if we can resew economic conditions with China after Trump leaves office.

Lol, yes the economic conditions with China previous to the current administration were oh so free. Unless you were Google or Facebook and wanted to run a website in China. Or you were a manufacturer and wanted to manufacture in China without transferring all of your IP to a state-owned JV partner.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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I can't see any Chinese phone company feeling comfortable with this move. If someone sets up a viable non-US alternative to Android and the Play Store, they could jump ship en masse.

Android phones sold in China use homebrew app stores instead of Google Play already, because of censorship.

This news, if true, will affect the devices made by Huawei and sold worldwide though.

Re: Google suspends some business with Huawei

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If true, this is certainly a nuclear move. There's a variety of first party app stores in China, though I doubt they'll see much success convincing Western users to switch. Curious if there's going to be antitrust fallout from markets outside the US for unilaterally crippling vendors at behest of US foreign policy. Is Microsoft or Apple going to pull their app stores as well? What happened to project Dragon Fly? On t…

I think much of that hardware is rebranded OEM anyways, which should be safe. It also isn’t clear China would blame google for this, or if its any worse than how google has pissed the Chinese government off in the past. Maybe they’ll just block google websites...wait no, they’ve done that already.

Surely it doesn't matter if China blame Google. USA have gone after Huawei based on Huawei being Chinese, so the response of China to stop manufacturing stuff for USA companies would seem reasonable, no?

Is this a "force people to buy USA manufactured goods; but blame it on the Chinese" attempt?

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