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...so you have to use your hands to clean shit out of your ass? This does not sound like a good thing.
They wash their hands. What's so gross about them going extra lengths to cleanse themselves? Its not like they're going to then ignore their very hands, considering for many, its a religious law to be clean. It seems like bidet fear but 10x. For no good reason.
What Ancient Romans Used Instead of Toilet Paper
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#172When we moved from Bangladesh to the US in the late 1980s, there were a couple of things that made us go “WTF?” One was the taste of chicken. In Bangladesh, you go buy a scrawny live chicken from the market and butcher it. It took me the better part of a year to be able to stomach American chicken, which tastes like wet cardboard in comparison. The other “WTF” thing was toilet paper. In Bangladesh, you rinse with wat…
As an Indian, I too had this WTF moment. It makes me wonder why paper is still used in the western world. Makes one wonder if there is a TP lobby out there ? We used to make jokes what if a TP user have diarrhea, how many trees will that be ? If a bird shits on your hand will you use paper or water to clean it ? Its just that simple to comprehend. Just use water damn it. Cheap, hygienic, no left overs and green too !
Diarrhoea is pretty much water, so it cleans up with paper very well.
> If a bird shits on your hand will you use paper or water to clean it ?
That's a misleading analogy. Do you eat off your butt? If I got bird poo on my bare foot, I'd wipe it off in the dirt and move on. Most people shower every few days anyway. I don't care how clean my butt is, just as long as it doesn't smell and it doesn't itch.
(FYI, in English, a space is only used after end-of-sentence punctuation, not before. I've never understood why Indians consistently get this wrong.)
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Forgive my ignorance, but how does ‘water and soap’ work? I can immediately see the application of a tersorium, but not water and soap.
Just shower after you do your business, you can imagine the rest.
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#177Americans don't have a high ground here. The first time I used a modern bidet was eye-opening. It eliminates the funk. It's environmentally friendly. It's easier on the bum, if you have hemmaroids (I don't, but this is the report from friends and family that do suffer). And it just feels refreshing. The toilet paper is only needed to sanity check cleanliness and dry out. The American squeamishness over the bidet is i…
The hemroid thing 100%. For all us desk jockies, they'll happen! Paper hurts, bidet/water all the way.
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Water is not universally abundant though and much more costly to transport than paper or wood.
It's pretty abundant in developed countries that primarily rely on toilet papers, one would presume.
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The legend goes that bidets where associated with whorehouses in literature from europe (as most literature not focusing on body fluids would not have reasons to mention bidets), so that when apartments started to be retrofitted for plumbing (initially for a kitchen!) in the USA, the extremely puritanical society left the bidets out.
Bidets are quite common in France and Spain, but I haven't seen many anywhere else in EU. A really practical solution to simulate a real bidet is to buy bidet cleansing foam and/or a portable bidet. You spray the cleansing foam into regular toilet paper, and it does improve performance a lot . Afterwards, just use the portable bidet.