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South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

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Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

#103

Then run a full linux kernel upon WSL2...

WSL2 isn't out yet, and WSL sucked so much that I imagine WSL 2 won't be much better.

> WSL sucked so much that I imagine WSL 2 won't be much better

Why does it suck? Is it an issue of compatibility or performance? At least WSL2 will fix the former.

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

#104

Cue a concerted effort by MS salespeople to make them an offer they can't refuse. See also: Munich.

Cue a concerted effort by MS salespeople to find their targets to blackmail or pay off to make the decision behind closed doors, and to spam all social media with defeatism using their AI bot farms.

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

#105

As I recall, this sort of public statement is used as a lever to squeeze some discounts out of Microsoft's Enterprise Sales team before the government "decides" to stay with Windows.

Yep. That's one common outcome. Another one is where they actually move and discover it's a nightmare to train people, and maintain the infrastructure.

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

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I wonder if this is something that can be accomplshied at a scale, particually thinking in the context of maintaining upgrade readiness and update compliance for all the devices.

Absolutely, it is very easy to automate too. Arch has a great package manager BTW.

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

#107

At this rate, it really feels like the next version of Windows will be derived from some Unix os. Windows 8 and onwards has been an unmitigated IT disaster. Windows Server is meh. I once ran Ubuntu mate with a windows theme on a computer terminal in a computer lab, and everybody clamored to use it since it was faster, better at printing, and never bluescreened. (That particular model was forced into "obselecence" by…

Agreed, yet their goal is to build their own crappy version so that people think Linux sucks, when in reality it is still MS. I blame their culture though. No one who appreciates quality open source wants to work there.

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

#109

I doubt this will work out. They also tried that in many countries, they all go back to using Windows. I hate Windows, but I can envision how much money AND time it's gonna cost them to move out, and I'm sure that they will either run out of money before they do the transition, or machines would have already dominated the earth before they are done with this "transition"l I would believe it much more if they said tha…

> They also tried that in many countries, they all go back to using Windows. uhh... no, here in France a lot of public infrastructure runs on linux.

The list of LibreOffice users hasn't grown, but hasn't shrunk either[0]. Kudos to the French for so far being the biggest Western-state to implement FOSS.

Apart from the obvious benefit of lower cost, security and personal individualization are further benefits. No matter what the politicians or business will tell you: Any government running Windows on their systems is basically broadcasting their data straight into US secret services. There's nothing stopping them from doing that. Who would prosecute them? Would US law enforcement have motivation to do that?

And when it comes to individualization: Any open standard that allows any other third party to develop products with will (if left to its own means) always win out against proprietary solutions, since you can pitch all the third parties against each other to compete for the lowest bid.

But since it's not about getting cost-effective IT, the governments don't appear too concerned of the US knowing all their secrets and Microsoft is definitely more capable of pampering politicians than 3rd party Linux developers could, absurd requirements dot every government contract to bar said Linux developers and leave Microsoft as the only "viable" choice.

[0]: https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/who-uses-libreoffice/

Re: South Korean government to switch to Linux: ministry

#110

At this rate, it really feels like the next version of Windows will be derived from some Unix os. Windows 8 and onwards has been an unmitigated IT disaster. Windows Server is meh. I once ran Ubuntu mate with a windows theme on a computer terminal in a computer lab, and everybody clamored to use it since it was faster, better at printing, and never bluescreened. (That particular model was forced into "obselecence" by…

Agreed, yet their goal is to build their own crappy version so that people think Linux sucks, when in reality it is still MS. I blame their culture though. No one who appreciates quality open source wants to work there.

> Agreed, yet their goal is to build their own crappy version so that people think Linux sucks, when in reality it is still MS.

Can't do it, Google owns that business model. I mean, they managed to do that twice? Must have taken them some serious effort!

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