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Aldi, a brutally efficient grocery chain, is upending America's supermarkets

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Re: Aldi, a brutally efficient grocery chain, is upending America's supermarkets

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I'm an industrial engineer and geek out about Aldi frequently. Here are a few things I've noticed (and researched) which differentiate them from others. -they have barcode on 5 or 6 sides of their products, and they're typically huge! They nearly never need to orient a product to scan it. Their scan speed is far faster than any other supermarket I've been at. -if two products are very similar, they'll change the pack…

My thought is that, although much of this is common sense, retailers have largely lost the will to live. They waste a lot of money on typical corporate money pits, but tend not to try improving the retail business itself. From what I gather in what people say, having only been to one Aldi before (so I don't really have enough experience to say much); I think Aldi has bucked the trend, and is trying to do a good job ,…

The coin thing is psychological. If you want to avoid carrying bags by hand, melt it for scrap, push your friends around, or get to your car 2 minutes faster, foregoing a quarter is great value.

Unfortunately for them/me, if I’m coming by chance by bicycle, I usually don’t have a coin and reduce my shopping to the necessities without a cart.

When you feel the weight of each item, you think more about every item you buy.

Re: Aldi, a brutally efficient grocery chain, is upending America's supermarkets

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You'd be surprised at what all counts as an "innovative" concept in the US. Coming over here from Europe as well, the country is 30-40 years backwards in many areas. (We do have wheel clamps, though ;)

The US has that stuff in bad neighborhoods. The wheel clamp is probably pretty standard in the urban areas and/or poor areas. Out in the well-off places where there aren't wandering street people, wheel clamps would be pointless. The expense, including repairs and downtime, is not justified.

This is an important distinction in general. Many of the ills Aldi attempts to combat generally are non-existent in other grocery stores in some places, thereby only serving to inconvenience those customers for no gain.

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I think I just started to understand why the US has such a low unemployment rate but so many are paid minimal wage...

The US is the epitome of bullshit, bureaucratic jobs. Medical billing, for example, is someone taking the list of procedures a medical office performs and plugs that into a computer so that the "codes" the office uses can match the "codes" the healthcare provider uses. I know what you're thinking, that describes a LUT (lookup table). Yes, you would be correct, a LUT is an actual profession in the USA.

Well it's not just that, your medical coder must try different related codes to see if the insurance will take a different code if the first proposed code isn't accepted by the health insurance company. 98765 not covered? Try 98764, that might be a covered procedure...

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yes, reading this article as European (that never visited the US) was a weirding experience. I lived in 4 different countries in Europe, and that's exactly how every supermarket work. And to be fair, I thought that every supermarket in the world worked like that... Can you imagine when the Americans will find automatic counters instead of cashiers? :)

I think they do have them. They know phrases like "Unexpected item in bagging area".

If the automatic checkout counters even look like they have a scale I won't waste my time. Not once have I made it out without the machine requiring an override, no matter how carefully I place and scan items. Thankfully it seems the scales are becoming less common.

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post #25

How similar is Aldi and Lidl? There is only Lidl here where I live. They seem very similar conceptually. What are the tangible differences, which one do you prefer?

The difference isn't that great, though I personally prefer to shop at Lidl/Rewe. Locally there is an ALDI, Lidl, Rewe and EDEKA within a 5 minute drive, by experience, ALDI is the cheapest of them but I usually prefer shopping at Lidl since they provide more higher quality stuff (ALDI doesn't always stock actual parmesan, it's very often just generic grated hard cheese). ALDI offers everything but only one of everything, Lidl has more a bit more variety.

99.9% of my Saturday grocery run can be satisfied from any of them however, so there isn't much reason to prefer any of them over the other in my area, other than EDEKA, the prices are mostly the same.

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This looks related to something that's mystified me for years about Safeway. Background: - Safeway rotates every product through "sale" and "full price" periods. It's a strictly calendar-based thing; every sale price is going to recur if you wait, and every product will spend a lot of time at "full price" and a lot of other time at two or three different "sale" prices. - Triscuits come in a variety of special flavors…

Same thing happens here, except there is always a loyalty card special on some items. If you want, say, a 12-pack of Vanilla Coke Zero, well, you have to buy three of them at once to avoid being reamed at the register. But you had better get there right after it's restocked, because it's always "Buy 2, get 1 free" or worse, "Buy 2, get 2 free," and they never stock more than three or four cartons at a time. Every tim…

This is something I've been thinking about a lot recently. It seems to be an impossible task to build a startup in this area as most supermarkets are far too large and have their own (seemingly sloppy) teams to do this stuff. Experience has taught me that there's probably a reason for things being the way they are.

Re: Aldi, a brutally efficient grocery chain, is upending America's supermarkets

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In addition to being the cheapest, I'm often impressed by the quality of some of Aldi's pantry staples. Specifically, I'm blown away by their onions. I buy a bag of onions every 1-3 weeks. Since I can't individually inspect every onion in the bag, I'm resigned to the fact that anywhere from 10-30% of the onions will be unusable when I start to cut into them and find the rot. This is true of pretty much every grocer I…

A friend of mine worked for a logistic company and he told me many times that dealing with Aldi was a nightmare for them because they were extremely demanding: very thin profit margin, tough quality checks (when delivering the items to the warehouses the checks were done on many more samples and in a much more detailed way than what other supermarket chains did) and if the truck arrived at the warehouse anytime after…

High standards and tight margins? Sounds like Apple.

Re: Aldi, a brutally efficient grocery chain, is upending America's supermarkets

#240
post #47

Just a quick alternative viewpoint: as a parent, I’ve been turned off by Aldi in the past. Often with a toddler and/or car seat in hand, unlocking a cart (for example) is not just an inconvenience, it’s a dealbreaker. I’m into the pursuit of efficiency and low prices, but there are some real world benefits of “full service” grocery stores. One being an nicer experience for the disabled (in my case, due to being a par…

> Often with a toddler and/or car seat in hand, unlocking a cart (for example) is not just an inconvenience, it’s a dealbreaker Interesting issue. I’ve never had that problem as a parent and have never heard anyone else raise that as an issue - having carts locked is absolutely standard in germany since at least a couple of decades. Maybe people are just used to it. There are specialized carts nowadays for wheelchair…

It only defeats it partly. It's still your plastic coin. If you left the cart, you'd be handing someone else your stuff for free.
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