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I solved the embedded Chrome OS ad equation and won a Cr-48

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Re: I solved the embedded Chrome OS ad equation and won a Cr-48

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Post by FiddlerClamp »

LordLandon wrote: post #38
simonsarris wrote: post #23

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I can relate, though maybe he is being a tad sensationalist. I expect (say) my bookmarks to be synced between all my computers. I'm sure plugins do this on other browsers, though. The biggest reason I don't consider Opera or FF for daily use anymore: Non-chrome browsers drive me crazy due to the way they close tabs. It is very stressful compared to mouse-closing tabs in Chrome and its "smart positioning."

I've been leaning back towards firefox recently due to how chrome handles large number of tabs: poorly. It'll squeeze them down to the point that they wont even show the favicon, making finding an open page annoying - compared to firefox, which has a minimum tab length, and scrolls the tab bar if it grows too large to fit. The rest might be a personal prefference, but I rarely use the mouse to close tabs anyway, ctrl…

Indeed - the lack of a multiline tab bar for Chrome is mystifying. No extensions do the trick, either.

Re: I solved the embedded Chrome OS ad equation and won a Cr-48

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Post by LordLandon »

brown9-2 wrote: post #52
LordLandon wrote: post #38

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I've been leaning back towards firefox recently due to how chrome handles large number of tabs: poorly. It'll squeeze them down to the point that they wont even show the favicon, making finding an open page annoying - compared to firefox, which has a minimum tab length, and scrolls the tab bar if it grows too large to fit. The rest might be a personal prefference, but I rarely use the mouse to close tabs anyway, ctrl…

Just curious, but if you have that many tabs open why not split them into different windows?

If it's split into windows, not only do I have to hover over every tab to find the one that I want, but also repeat the process for every open window.

The alternative is sorting the tabs somehow, but that's more maintance than a middle click.

Re: I solved the embedded Chrome OS ad equation and won a Cr-48

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Post by jonhendry »

chris24 wrote: post #64
codeglomeration wrote: post #62

From the screenshot of the secret page: "Also, we can only give you a Chrome notebook if you live in the United States and ... " I find it such a shame that these types of conditions are so popular for most contests / easter eggs, etc. Are the legal issue regarding this that complex? I'm assuming Google is not really that cheap regarding postage costs, since we're also only talking about 1 notebook here. Also interes…

It appears to be an issue with wireless regulations.

I doubt it. It applies to most giveaways of any kind (free posters, free calendars, etc). They usually only accept entrants from one country or equivalent legal entity. I expect it's because of variation in contest-related laws between countries, tax laws, etc.

Re: I solved the embedded Chrome OS ad equation and won a Cr-48

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Post by thenduks »

jacquesm wrote: post #26
thenduks wrote: post #11

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The statement is definitely a bit sensationalist. That said, yes . Even non-techy people I've seen checking out chrome comment on the speed and how much they like the UI.

I'll spend some more time with Chrome then, I have it installed but normally only use it for compatibility tests. thanks!

It takes a bit to get used to if you're a Firefox 'poweruser' and I'm not sure 'Web Inspector' is quite to the maturity of Firebug yet... Still, it's my primary browser.

One cool thing not to miss is in the unified location bar, it does some search stuff via the 'manage' button in the basics pref pane. It auto-senses search fields on various websites and lists them there, then you can go in and setup a trigger for it (eg, wikipedia => W, google images => gi, etc).

Re: I solved the embedded Chrome OS ad equation and won a Cr-48

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Post by knackers »

thenduks wrote: post #84
jacquesm wrote: post #26

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I'll spend some more time with Chrome then, I have it installed but normally only use it for compatibility tests. thanks!

It takes a bit to get used to if you're a Firefox 'poweruser' and I'm not sure 'Web Inspector' is quite to the maturity of Firebug yet... Still, it's my primary browser. One cool thing not to miss is in the unified location bar, it does some search stuff via the 'manage' button in the basics pref pane. It auto-senses search fields on various websites and lists them there, then you can go in and setup a trigger for it…

Sir you have just made my day.

Re: I solved the embedded Chrome OS ad equation and won a Cr-48

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Post by patio11 »

cd34 wrote: post #25
jlongster wrote: post #22

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I still really don't understand what's so hard about a couple thousand views. I've had a couple posts hit the front page (even #1 on HN and #5 on prog.reddit), and my server was fine. I use Apache to serve the resources and Clojure to handle web requests. Nothing fancy.

Wordpress without caching on a VPS that is probably not configured well. w3tc or wp-super-cache would probably fix his issues. Installing it while the site is hammered.... will be fun. Perhaps as challenging as solving the easter egg.

Any out-of-the-box Apache setup on, e.g., Ubuntu will, with absolute certainty, appear to crash if you subject it to several thousand pageviews in a short amount of time. KeepAlive is on by default, and that essentially amounts to turning any group of five or more interested people who share a 3 second window into denial of service attack.

This used to drive me freaking bonkers -- I was installing caching plugins, offloading static resources to other domains, tweaking the number of worker processes, etc etc. Nothing worked, and my blog regularly crashed almost every time it hit an audience larger than HN's. Turned off KeepAlive, bam, no problems since.

Re: I solved the embedded Chrome OS ad equation and won a Cr-48

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Post by jackowayed »

patio11 wrote: post #86
cd34 wrote: post #25

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Wordpress without caching on a VPS that is probably not configured well. w3tc or wp-super-cache would probably fix his issues. Installing it while the site is hammered.... will be fun. Perhaps as challenging as solving the easter egg.

Any out-of-the-box Apache setup on, e.g., Ubuntu will , with absolute certainty, appear to crash if you subject it to several thousand pageviews in a short amount of time. KeepAlive is on by default, and that essentially amounts to turning any group of five or more interested people who share a 3 second window into denial of service attack. This used to drive me freaking bonkers -- I was installing caching plugins, o…

How hard would it be for them to make it degrade by default? ie. Use KeepAlive until it starts having heavy load, and then disable it when the load becomes a problem.

Re: I solved the embedded Chrome OS ad equation and won a Cr-48

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Post by cd34 »

patio11 wrote: post #86
cd34 wrote: post #25

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Wordpress without caching on a VPS that is probably not configured well. w3tc or wp-super-cache would probably fix his issues. Installing it while the site is hammered.... will be fun. Perhaps as challenging as solving the easter egg.

Any out-of-the-box Apache setup on, e.g., Ubuntu will , with absolute certainty, appear to crash if you subject it to several thousand pageviews in a short amount of time. KeepAlive is on by default, and that essentially amounts to turning any group of five or more interested people who share a 3 second window into denial of service attack. This used to drive me freaking bonkers -- I was installing caching plugins, o…

If keepalive fixed it, your configuration had other problems especially if you were using mpm-worker. email me at hnusername@hnusername.com - I'd be interested in talking further. Ubuntu and Debian distribute configs meant for home users/developers - those configs are certainly not made for production webserving.

Re: I solved the embedded Chrome OS ad equation and won a Cr-48

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Post by cd34 »

jackowayed wrote: post #87
patio11 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any out-of-the-box Apache setup on, e.g., Ubuntu will , with absolute certainty, appear to crash if you subject it to several thousand pageviews in a short amount of time. KeepAlive is on by default, and that essentially amounts to turning any group of five or more interested people who share a 3 second window into denial of service attack. This used to drive me freaking bonkers -- I was installing caching plugins, o…

How hard would it be for them to make it degrade by default? ie. Use KeepAlive until it starts having heavy load, and then disable it when the load becomes a problem.

ab with 500 concurrent, no keepalives: Requests per second: 13428.16 [#/sec] (mean)

ab with 500 concurrent, keepalives: Requests per second: 14403.98 [#/sec] (mean)

Keepalives allow the browser to maintain a socket between the browser and server and request multiple objects. So, rather than having to do a connect/teardown for each object, you remove that overhead. Some versions of Apache in conjunction with php and mysql_pconnect had issues in the past that might explain the OP's issues with keepalives, but, it has piqued my curiosity. In general, keepalives should reduce communication handling and allow more throughput.

Re: I solved the embedded Chrome OS ad equation and won a Cr-48

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Post by Robin_Message »

redthrowaway wrote: post #54
v21 wrote: post #42

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If you accidentally close too many tabs, Shift-Ctrl-T will reopen them. And will remember content in forms. I like Chrome.

Shift-cmd-t makes you wonder what the hell everybody else is doing that it took so long to get this feature.

Also, Ctrl-Z in Opera also works, which makes perfect sense and is less for the user to learn, and is discoverable (in the sense, they can go to the standard Edit -> Undo menu which is more visible.) Although actually, Opera also has a visible basket of closed tabs on the right of the tab bar, which is even better.
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