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The Curse of Genius

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Re: The Curse of Genius

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I went through a gifted program starting in 3rd grade but I don’t think I’m gifted. Most of what I think seems obvious. For example, the ability to ask simple questions in the moment is a skill anyone can learn. For the highest level poker player, analytical thoughts are rather systemic but require emotional and intellectual control. Had I focused on any one thing, I think I could had been a brilliant programmer, phy…

Gifted might just mean top 10% of society. Which means that if you're in the 10th percentile there are still very many people who are more intelligent than you. Further, for any given field of expertise, you'll still bump into people who can intellectually wipe the floor with you (in their topic of expertise) unless you stick around and learn enough to surpass them.

Additionally, a lot of people mistake learned knowledge or implicit social values for intelligence, and so it can take a long time in a new environment to be able to actually demonstrate to anyone that you're intelligent.

I know this isn't the primary point of your comment, but it can quite easy to not feel very intelligent in a lot circumstances.

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(disclaimer: not a genious, iq 125) grade 0, first day, found name of classmate interesting as it was the same name as a character in a tale I liked, I remarked this, was told that it was cruel to "call people names", class was encouraged to find a "bad name" for me. grade 1, teacher used to enjoy holding me in front of the class, telling "this is [name], he thinks he's special, he likes attention" and have the other…

Why do programmers have a hard time writing coherent complete sentences?

I = 1

I is 1

The variable I is storing the number 1.

They all mean the same thing. Programmers were taught that the first one is best. Because it is accurate and concise. What you call coherence introduces the risk of misunderstanding.

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I suspect the sibling reply is correct, that it’s more about celebrity than genius. But I also don’t think Feynman was a genius the way Einstein was. AFAIK, his math skills didn’t stand out and his main contributions seemed to be about making physics more accessible and teaching.

Im not sure about his genius compared to Einstein, but Hus contributions to physics are much more than popularization (which I think came much later in his career). He played a leading role in developing the most successful scientific theory in history: quantum electrodynamics.

Einstein was not very good with math. He stood on the shoulders of Pointcaré, Lorentz, and Riemman. He saw more, he saw farther, he was brilliant, but I'm not sure he'd have done what he did without those shoulders to stand on. OTOH, once he had Special Relativity in the bag and saw an outline of General Relativity, he had the persistence to see it through.

Feynman had it easier in this sense: more shoulders to stand on, less radical theories to develop, and was less alone in terms of peers.

IMO Feynman and Einstein are comparable.

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> grade 3, handed in assignment in basic, we were supposed to write a story, and I wrote a small program with arrays of words, and arrays of indexes to print the story.. Teacher told me it didn't count to "write some hieroglyphs", I told he it was a program, she explained to me "it's not possible to just make a program". yeah, i'm with the teacher on this one. you didn't complete the assignment. At grade 3, a lot of…

Well, she told us to write it down, not how, she could have asked me to run and print it instead. At that age, I still had a sense of wonder about the world, and I thought exploring it was why we were here. I didn't understand that conforming was more important that exploring, but I understand that now.

There’s a time and a place for both. If you’re going through security at the airport, conform. If you’re learning something in your free-time, explore.

Re: The Curse of Genius

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"partner, children, family, home, job" I found all of these "ordinary" things in life to be quite extraordinary when they happened to me!

That's rather the point though, isn't it? Your baby is fascinating because it's yours, but babies in the abstract aren't actually very interesting. They pass through the same developmental milestones at roughly the same rate and have the same (very limited) capacity for novelty. I've never met a baby with a unique perspective on the Israel-Palestine problem or a fabulous collection of golden age comic books. It's a b…

Yeah I think any random baby is more interesting than a comic book collection but maybe that’s just me.

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"partner, children, family, home, job" I found all of these "ordinary" things in life to be quite extraordinary when they happened to me!

That's rather the point though, isn't it? Your baby is fascinating because it's yours, but babies in the abstract aren't actually very interesting. They pass through the same developmental milestones at roughly the same rate and have the same (very limited) capacity for novelty. I've never met a baby with a unique perspective on the Israel-Palestine problem or a fabulous collection of golden age comic books. It's a b…

At the very least, any old baby is vastly more interesting than all the AI the world has ever produced. They aren’t simple - they are far beyond our understanding.

Re: The Curse of Genius

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A kindergarten screening question that was given to my child:

What is a pair?

Most kids say either “socks” or “a fruit” (because hearing pair in this sentence is indeed ambiguous...)

The answer they really wanted was “two of something”.

Re: The Curse of Genius

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I am somewhat of a mixed bag myself - certainly not to those extremes but above average. On the autistic spectrum and - withim normal developmental time tables but I had a habit of unthreading myself from infant car seats repeatedly and an unusually far back memory. I always remember being able to read but lacking much of an attention span for it. I will refrain from the "G"-word and say I went to college at 16 and s…

>Or the interviewing process judging people on suits and posture is batshit insane, that they find people incapable of or not mimicking their tone less trustworthy for being insufficiently deceptive and more.

If the G factor if intelligence is really "general," won't it also improve your ability to posture and choose suits?

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