They'll probably use this as an excuse to use even more h1bs and to outsource even more work.
Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
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Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't forget about WhatsApp. It was the main channel of dissemination of fake news in Brazilian Election. Now we have a global warning denier in the presidency and Amazon deforestation is reaching record levels. Sure there isn't any company in the FAANG that is an altruistic enterprise, but to be only pure evil one is Facebook. What really impresses me is that there's still a lot of talented people working there.
Any communication platform that is easy to use and easy to reach people on, and will therefore be popular, is great channel of dissemination of fake news. Well, guess what, it is also a great channel for communicating nonfake news, and talking to people that matter to you, and sharing your interests with likeminded people, and... Blaming the platform for carrying fake news seems disingenuous. Fake news have been spre…
I think one needs to be very intentionally oblivious to not notice the qualitative difference between fake news of the past and fake news right now.
Fake news in the past always had an identifiable source, because there was still an institution, a company, or someone with their name on the door between reader and publisher. As it stands, no such barrier exists any more. Things can be inserted by malicious actors into the debate, and they spread automatically simply because they have the tendency to 'go viral', something entirely absent in the past. That has added a completely new set of problems.
>Blame people for believing most of anything they're told
Precisely because it is very much in everyone's nature to suffer from these mechanisms it makes no sense to blame ' the people'. What does this imply, a great re-education of everyone? Obviously the only thing we can change is the companies, institutions and rules that determine how we consume the news, not how human brains disseminate them.
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#143I have seen cold emails from Facebook and Instagram recruiters recently and they all start on the defensive about privacy, how it's "Zuck's" big thing and how he's taking it seriously. Seems a little desperate.
Does anyone actually believe Zuck's new found interest in privacy? His entire company is built on the sharing of data (even in ways users don't understand).
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Do you not consider Gmail data posted voluntarily by the user? How about search queries or calendar entries?
I can see your concern about messages via email, but I know for me personally, email is just not a thing anymore. Forgetting plain SPAM, corporations/marketing/etc have ruined email into this signal that has such a low S/N ratio that it's just not useful. What percentage of internet users actually use email for communication anymore? Sure, some, but it's not my largest attack vector (I consider Google/FB as attacking…
Anything serious goes trough emails and this is the data I’d be most worried about leaking - anything from security related stuff like login/id confirmation to receipts, confirmations, sensitive data, professional communication.
Waaay more valuable than FB scraping my phonebook and photos
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#145Facebook's brand is tainted enough now that smart engineers don't want any of the bleedover into their personal brand that would come from working there. How many engineers, in hiring positions, do you know that have a positive opinion of FB?
Ok but how many engineers use React, yarn, or graphql? Facebook is still leading the way in front end development and it’s still a net positive to have that name on your resume. Their brand isn’t any more tainted than Google, Microsoft, or Amazon.
I will happily profit from the work FB has poured into all three of those technologies and smile knowing they won't make a single cent from me.
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#146They have to pay more. Median monthly pay for intern: $8,000 https://www.vox.com/2019/5/15/18564801/facebook-interns-doub...
That's been the common intern pay for a while at FAANG companies. Heck I got paid more than $8k at a non-FAANG company back in 2012.
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#147My career is and has always been defined by a refusal to work for companies I'm not ethically comfortable with. Hopefully it becomes more of a norm.
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#148I just spent three months hiring in NYC, and now that I think about it, I haven't seen a single person mention they were considering counteroffers from Facebook. For context, Facebook and Google are the two largest tech companies with a significant NYC presence. It's telling that a substantial portion of our candidates admitted to considering competing offers from Google, but literally no one was considering Facebook…
And, yet, here in the bay - my company (a startup) sent out two offers to candidates quite recently and they both went to FB instead.
There is no shortage of people joining FB because there's no shortage of people wanting to join a big company. Maybe if they're all comparing offers between big companies then they'll join some other big co but if the difference is startup vs Facebook... FB wins.
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#149As a business, this is not a big problem for FB. FB will still find plenty of talent. What they will find less abundant is "top talent," whatever that means. I doubt FB actually needs that much "top talent" to continue successfully, anyway. They're not performing brain surgery on a rocket.
I agree. Amazon has been hiring mediocre talent for the last two decades and it hasn't slowed their growth at all.
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#150As much as everyone wants to believe this is because all the applicants are suddenly taking strong ethical stances, I bet it has more to do with Facebook simply not being considering cool or exciting anymore.
Sure, but one of the biggest reasons it isn't considered cool or exiting anymore is all the negative press.