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Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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Post by ip26 »

checkyoursudo wrote: post #7

My sleep tracking now consists of putting my APAP on to counteract my sleep apnea, falling asleep within seconds because I'm like Pavlov's sleeping baby dog because of the machine, and then waking up and seeing what the machine says re: how long it has been pushing air in my nose. It works surprisingly well, actually. If I only got 6.5 hours of APAP last night, then I will pretty reliably go to bed a little earlier t…

As Pavlov would tell you, it doesn't need to be a mask. It can be anything. So for the mass market, perhaps a bell would be a better choice.

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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Post by wpietri »

ip26 wrote: post #31
checkyoursudo wrote: post #7

My sleep tracking now consists of putting my APAP on to counteract my sleep apnea, falling asleep within seconds because I'm like Pavlov's sleeping baby dog because of the machine, and then waking up and seeing what the machine says re: how long it has been pushing air in my nose. It works surprisingly well, actually. If I only got 6.5 hours of APAP last night, then I will pretty reliably go to bed a little earlier t…

As Pavlov would tell you, it doesn't need to be a mask. It can be anything. So for the mass market, perhaps a bell would be a better choice.

The one I recommend is automated light.

A while back I built something to mimic a day-night cycle: https://github.com/wpietri/sunrise

My original goal was to counteract the darkness of winter, which impacts my mood and productivity. But the thing I like best about it is that the lights dim in the evening, so I actually go to bed at a reasonable hour. Whereas with manual lighting, I can easily leave the lights on while doing something, not notice the hour, and throw off my sleep cycle.

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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Post by llamataboot »

DenisM wrote: post #21
fizwhiz wrote: post #5

Tbh the oura ring has been a game changer for a data nerd like me. I can easily see how some exercise in the day actually impacts my HRV[1] and then the quality of my sleep. Had a heavy night of drinking? Watch what the oura ring reports not just on the same night but even the next night :) Basically if you're thinking of starting your own "protocol" for sleep and would like to A/B test what works and what seems like…

Did you really need a $300 device to tell you that a night of drinking will undermine your sleep?

I didn't need one to know that, but I was surprised by how little drinking would change my resting heart rate (even two beers at dinner might keep my heart rate elevated for half of the night) and by how much/how long heavy drinking can affect RHR/HRV - a heavy night might affect RHR for 2-3 days...

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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Post by neves »

DenisM wrote: post #24

Another view on the Oura thing: https://www.medpagetoday.com/practicemanagement/informationt... It's rather skeptical. Choice quote: [...] The SRI researchers studied 41 healthy adolescents and young adults (average age 17). Sleep data were recorded using the Oura ring and standard PSG on a single laboratory overnight. Metrics were compared using Bland-Altman plots and epoch-by-epoch analysis. The ring accurately det…

I have a cheap Mi Band 2 and I'm impressed with how well it measures when I'm sleeping and when I'm awake. I don't know how good it is to measure deep sleep. I does not pretend to measure REM.

Are there any weareable device that measures it well?

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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Post by enra »

novok wrote: post #10
fizwhiz wrote: post #5

Tbh the oura ring has been a game changer for a data nerd like me. I can easily see how some exercise in the day actually impacts my HRV[1] and then the quality of my sleep. Had a heavy night of drinking? Watch what the oura ring reports not just on the same night but even the next night :) Basically if you're thinking of starting your own "protocol" for sleep and would like to A/B test what works and what seems like…

Why use this over an apple watch or fitbit?

I have both. Dislike wearing Apple Watch in the bed since it turns on randomly and it's bulky. The Oura doesn't feel much larger than a wedding band and it's lighter.

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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Post by killerdhmo »

wuunderbar wrote: post #29
mirceal wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it depends. do you have 314 in disposable income? is health really important for you?

My problem is when this company fizzles out in 2 years and stops servicing or supporting their product. If Apple make made something like this, I may bite.

They do, it's called the Apple Watch. I find if I charge it in the morning and night while I'm brushing my teeth, the battery lasts all day. And there's a few apps that do good sleep reporting. I like AutoSleep and SleepWatch

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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Post by deegles »

enra wrote: post #36
novok wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why use this over an apple watch or fitbit?

I have both. Dislike wearing Apple Watch in the bed since it turns on randomly and it's bulky. The Oura doesn't feel much larger than a wedding band and it's lighter.

Turn on theater mode and the display only activates when you press the crown. The battery also lasts longer!

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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Post by killerdhmo »

0xffff2 wrote: post #13
novok wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why use this over an apple watch or fitbit?

Does the Apple Watch do sleep tracking out of the box now? I was one of the 5 people who bought a Microsoft Band, and I really enjoyed the sleep tracking features. I still haven't pulled the trigger on an Apple Watch since switching to and iPhone because it (used to?) lack sleep tracking as a feature.

It does, I like AutoSleep and SleepWatch to track my sleep, and as a fellow poster added, you can get by with just a few minutes of charging in the morning and night

Re: Sleepless in Silicon Valley

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Post by RandallBrown »

DenisM wrote: post #24

Another view on the Oura thing: https://www.medpagetoday.com/practicemanagement/informationt... It's rather skeptical. Choice quote: [...] The SRI researchers studied 41 healthy adolescents and young adults (average age 17). Sleep data were recorded using the Oura ring and standard PSG on a single laboratory overnight. Metrics were compared using Bland-Altman plots and epoch-by-epoch analysis. The ring accurately det…

It doesn't matter so much how accurate it is, as long as it's consistently inaccurate.

I don't care if my scale at home is perfectly accurate. I care about knowing that my weight is going up/down.

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