Hmm... the headline is in direct contradiction with what I read on Blind. People are still flocking at Facebook's gate for an offer.
Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
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Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#32This is not a surprising headline. If you have values about privacy, decency, civil discourse, honesty or integrity you wouldn’t want to work there. Also, if you feel the company was collusive or willingly complicit in the dissemination of fake news and Russian propaganda efforts during our elections, it’d be a big fat “no” to working there. And it’s not just our democracy that is undermined by FB. There’s a litany o…
>Also, if you feel the company was collusive or willingly complicit in the dissemination of fake news and Russian propaganda efforts during our elections, it’d be a big fat “no” to working there. And it’s not just our democracy that is undermined by FB
Come on. According to FB the IRA had 80000 posts over a two year period. In the same period there were 33 trillion FB posts. What moron still believes this garbage?
FB was hung out to dry by Congressional democrats too spineless to own up to their own pathetic failure to defeat Trump.
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#33Facebook's brand is tainted enough now that smart engineers don't want any of the bleedover into their personal brand that would come from working there. How many engineers, in hiring positions, do you know that have a positive opinion of FB?
Ok but how many engineers use React, yarn, or graphql? Facebook is still leading the way in front end development and it’s still a net positive to have that name on your resume. Their brand isn’t any more tainted than Google, Microsoft, or Amazon.
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#34The sooner FB just dries up and dies, the better (IMHO). What do we need that junk for?
I get a lot of value from Facebook, and it greatly improves my life, even just this past week. I found out about some career opportunities through friends' posts. I saw photos of old friends that made me happy. I got answers to questions I had about a specific uncommon musical instrument I had via a Facebook group. I searched for people who would be in a city I was visiting, to message them to meet up while I was there. I learned news about acquaintences having kids or moving between cities. I read some backstory about a city hall decision that made me more informed about what particular politicians have been focused on and why. I bet I'm in the majority actually, and people who get nothing from it are probably already not using it.
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#35This is not a surprising headline. If you have values about privacy, decency, civil discourse, honesty or integrity you wouldn’t want to work there. Also, if you feel the company was collusive or willingly complicit in the dissemination of fake news and Russian propaganda efforts during our elections, it’d be a big fat “no” to working there. And it’s not just our democracy that is undermined by FB. There’s a litany o…
> I don't think there is any company in the FAANG that is an altruistic enterprise I feel like Google started that way, and then lost its way sometime between 2009-2012. Projects like Google Scholar, Google Books, Google Summer of Code, Google Reader, Google Open Source, Google.org, and pulling out of China didn't really have much of a business justification, but were simply something good that they could do. Unfortu…
I don't think that it has anything to do with altruism. Back then, it was not the right time to optimise for profit as new and exciting things were happening daily, it was time to explore not to exploit.
These days the exciting things are happening in other areas, so for the Internet giants, it's time to optimize for profit.
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#36This is not a surprising headline. If you have values about privacy, decency, civil discourse, honesty or integrity you wouldn’t want to work there. Also, if you feel the company was collusive or willingly complicit in the dissemination of fake news and Russian propaganda efforts during our elections, it’d be a big fat “no” to working there. And it’s not just our democracy that is undermined by FB. There’s a litany o…
>Also, if you feel the company was collusive or willingly complicit in the dissemination of fake news and Russian propaganda efforts during our elections, it’d be a big fat “no” to working there. And it’s not just our democracy that is undermined by FB Come on. According to FB the IRA had 80000 posts over a two year period. In the same period there were 33 trillion FB posts. What moron still believes this garbage? FB…
I don't think you can discount that a concerted effort to create viral content will spread much farther than arbitrary wall posts by individuals. There are statistical methods Facebook could use to figure out how much of an impact that they had and I have not seen any such analysis yet.
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#37The sooner FB just dries up and dies, the better (IMHO). What do we need that junk for?
Seconding asciident' comment here, I can count at least 3 different things that had a positive effect on me, and 0 negative ones, in the last week.
I do agree that you probably don't need this junk.
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#38I just spent three months hiring in NYC, and now that I think about it, I haven't seen a single person mention they were considering counteroffers from Facebook. For context, Facebook and Google are the two largest tech companies with a significant NYC presence. It's telling that a substantial portion of our candidates admitted to considering competing offers from Google, but literally no one was considering Facebook.
> Usually half of the close is done for recruiters with the brand Facebook has
I'm also finding that company brand plays a huge role in closing candidates. Our company's brand is generally pretty strong, and I've found one of the things candidates respond to most is the story we tell about our company's past, present, and future. Facebook's story has become "we were founded by a jerk who didn't care about privacy, our not caring about privacy has had massive consequences for American and global society, and our promises to improve our approach to privacy in the future have proven to be disingenuous smokescreens."
It's no wonder the substantial portion of people who care about their employer's ethics are turned off.
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#39This is not a surprising headline. If you have values about privacy, decency, civil discourse, honesty or integrity you wouldn’t want to work there. Also, if you feel the company was collusive or willingly complicit in the dissemination of fake news and Russian propaganda efforts during our elections, it’d be a big fat “no” to working there. And it’s not just our democracy that is undermined by FB. There’s a litany o…
The reason why facebook is no longer interesting as a hire- is - that they are already there. They are the microsoft of social communication. If you want to push new ideas in social media, you open a company and the company gets bought by facebook, if succesfull.
Those that float around in that sort of mothership, are usually bureaucrats and legacy maintainers, plus a health dose of suits, who dont care what sort of buisness they actually are in, as long as the numbers grow.
Why in the world would one want to go there?
Re: Facebook has struggled to hire talent since the Cambridge Analytica scandal
#40Wow! Every so often, I see something that makes me feel hopeful about the future. This is one of those times.
I feel bad for the Facebook employees below middle management level, but I also really would like some harsh penalties directed at Zuckerberg et al. I hate that huge corporations can just kind of shrug and say "oops" to egregious crimes, without any meaningful consequences. Same with corporations not paying tax while still benefiting from the stable society created by those taxes.
There are real signs of a moral change in this upcoming generation. I suspect a lot of people are going to be very surprised when that wave comes in and breaks.