Ask HN: Finally have loose change and spare time, but no sense of purpose. Help.
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Re: Ask HN: Finally have loose change and spare time, but no sense of purpose. Help.
#221. Find someone who needs help.
2. Help them.
That's it. It's not about you and your skills and your intelligence and your blessings and your depression and your inner psychology etc. etc. etc. It's about others.
They may need help in an area you're already familiar with, but maybe not. Either way, you'll learn something new, they'll get where they need to be, and your situation will profoundly morph into something else.
The sooner you start helping someone else, the sooner you will wonder how you could have ever posted this. A hundred ideas will come your way when you least expect them, along with the energy to do something about them. You will find that there's lots to be done and you're the perfect person to do them. You'll have a different problem then. You'll need help getting all of it done. So you'll be making a very different post to hn. I'm looking forward to that one.
Re: Ask HN: Finally have loose change and spare time, but no sense of purpose. Help.
#23When you say you've never had a "house", does this mean you still live with your parents? I think you mostly have existed and not actually lived. You should probably start by just gaining some independence and some outside extracurricular activities. You should have a house/apartment, a car, a girlfriend, some hobbies. Lack of these things and the ability to live for 10 years on any amount you could have reasonably a…
I think you have described me well. I'm not bragging. You should be able to tell from what I've written that I'm not proud of what I've done in life so far. Is it wrong for me to prioritize getting some real stuff done over having a car, house, or girlfriend? It's not like a gas-guzzling vehicle will make me any happier, and I find gardening distinctly unenjoyable. No comment yet on this relationship stuff.
Re: Ask HN: Finally have loose change and spare time, but no sense of purpose. Help.
#24"Better" is subjective and based on multiple variables. IMHO Ferrari makes better cars than Ford but Ford sells plenty of cars. I think Reddit is better than Digg, but plenty of people disagree.
Be careful not to fall into a trap of seeing things as black and white. There's a lot of fun and money in the grays ;-)
Re: Ask HN: Finally have loose change and spare time, but no sense of purpose. Help.
#25The reason for this advice is because you said "I'm sick of corporate America and all its bureaucratic shenaningans, where I'm only learning the wrong way to get things done. I want out." and you also said you didn't have any ideas for new products or interest in starting your own company. So move to a place where everything is different and that should be sufficient challenge to keep you interested in life. Bureaucracy might be the same, but it's going to be a different kind of bureaucracy.
I also strongly recommend you find a girl with the exact opposite personality as you. If you are introverted, she should be extroverted. If you are analytical and cautious, she should be free spirited. There are actually studies that have shown the exact opposite Myers-Briggs personality type is an ideal match since you'll complement each other very well as a unit, creating a balanced unit facing the world. So if you are a INTJ programmer she should be a ESFP party girl. You might say gosh but we have nothing in common, I can't relate to her way of thinking at all. And it turns out that's exactly what is best. Rather than stay at home surfing the net or playing video games or whatever she'll drag you out to parties or art openings where you'll meet some ambassador or Nobel Prize winner or what not.
Re: Ask HN: Finally have loose change and spare time, but no sense of purpose. Help.
#26+1, I like to travel too, and perhaps spending a month trotting around Europe would be an eye-opening experience, but I always think you'd get back home and think "well... now what?". Similar to the feeling I get when I finish watching a movie - enjoyable for the duration, but no real lasting benefit.
I can't speak for you, but I can share my ideas about what I would do in that position (I am a 27 year old developer with a good education and work experience):
Take some taught courses to get my weaknesses up to scratch - for me it's Mathematics and Motivation. I don't know how the second can be fixed but the first is easy.
Then I would specialise in my interest areas - for me it's machine learning in various forms. Probably I'd do a PhD.
I'd seek to network a lot better than I have in the past. I have friends working for very exciting companies, and I think if we all got together something amazing could happen, but they're mostly in London and I'm not. I'd fix that too.
So in summary, my plan would be to get my knowledge and skills up to speed, and then arrange my life to coincide with like-minded individuals as much as possible.
Re: Ask HN: Finally have loose change and spare time, but no sense of purpose. Help.
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you have described me well. I'm not bragging. You should be able to tell from what I've written that I'm not proud of what I've done in life so far. Is it wrong for me to prioritize getting some real stuff done over having a car, house, or girlfriend? It's not like a gas-guzzling vehicle will make me any happier, and I find gardening distinctly unenjoyable. No comment yet on this relationship stuff.
What is "real stuff"?
Something that makes a difference in the lives of real people. In all honesty I don't know any more than that, but I have a hard time believing that it's any of those things you mentioned.
Re: Ask HN: Finally have loose change and spare time, but no sense of purpose. Help.
#28Great! Now quit your job and take some time to just explore. I'm not talking about places; I mean thoughts, ideas, and projects. Derek Sivers on "finding your passion": http://sivers.org/passion By the way, have you already put in your 10 years of coding on projects that push at and stretch your programming ability? If not, you really have no justification to say you're not capable of being a good programmer, and jus…
Great! Now quit your job and take some time to just explore. I'm not talking about places; I mean thoughts, ideas, and projects. Sure, sounds great, but is quitting really necessary for that? I did say that I do have spare time now, and although I'm not addicted to a paycheck, I don't think I can just leap into the abyss either. Unfortunately, right now my "ground state" (as so eloquently described here: http://news.…
Short answer: Yes.
Why are you so attached to having a full-time job? Is the point of life to just spend all of it working and accumulating cash? You're in a great position to grant yourself a sabbattical/mini-retirement/etc. I also have no idea what abyss you're worried about falling into; it sounds like you're already in one. Jobs are a commodity, lifetimes aren't.
Or you could look at it as a new job: you're going to be employed by yourself with the objective of reinventing yourself and learning to live. Your task is to spend 40 hours/week on moving toward self-actualization: learning to be independent, having a girlfriend, and finding your passions. (Edit: And spend time volunteering and making a difference in others' lives as people have suggested in this thread.)
Where in California are you? I know a couple of "hacker houses" in Berkeley and SF that are filled with interesting and passionate people. You could spend a couple months in one and immerse yourself in a fun, interesting, engaging environment.
Relevant: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1112823,00....
You should also check out the book "4 Hour Work Week". I don't subscribe to the literal idea of a 4 hour work week, but the life-optimization philosophy explained in it is inspirational and makes a lot of sense.
Re: Ask HN: Finally have loose change and spare time, but no sense of purpose. Help.
#29Don't go home after work - join a gym, go bicycling, walk thru the city till it gets dark.
If you're used to go to bed early - stay up late and spend the next day at the office trying not to fall asleep.
If you don't hang out during the weekends - call some of your friends and get really wasted.
etc.
The point is getting new perspectives on life, new experiences will help you find out what you really want and need.
Re: Ask HN: Finally have loose change and spare time, but no sense of purpose. Help.
#30Classic quarter-life crisis. It will pass. However; you're 24 and you've never had a girlfriend ? And you feel like there's something missing in your life? I don't think joining a startup or learning ten new programming languages is the solution to your problems...
Please. I know I have a fair share of problems, but you seem awfully quick to pass judgment as to this being one of them. Care to elaborate? EDIT: Let me just say that I'm in no shape to get into a relationship. I will just be dumping my problems on her and making her miserable instead.