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Mind-controlled hearing aid allows the wearer to focus on particular voices

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Hearing enhancement for everyone is easy with current tech. But people won't do it because it looks like you're disabled. But once enough people do it, it'll no longer look that way and be cool like sunglasses. But they are not. So we don't. Strange world.

Highly unlikely, given that people don't gratuitously wear prescription sunglasses. And speaking as a hearing aid user, the problem is exactly that of the article: making things louder only helps when you're listening to a single person in fairly good background conditions. Actually selecting and amplifying a particular voice is much harder.

Re: Mind-controlled hearing aid allows the wearer to focus on particular voices

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Amazing, and I need one of these! I damaged my hearing years ago (operating a stump grinder without protection. Doh!) I can hear things perfectly well in most environments, but a crowded room is terrible for me. I can be looking right at the person I'm talking to and won't be able to distinguish their voice from the background noise. I really hope these become widely commercialized. I'd like one.

> but a crowded room is terrible for me.

I'm in the same boat. Too many Motorhead gigs in the 80's have taken their toll :). I can hear a pin drop in my house, but as soon as I'm in an environment with background noise - a pub, a busy street or even a restaurant (though I think restaurants may be problem for many folks[0]) - I find it difficult to hear people speaking to me. Semi-jokingly, I've often thought about taking up a pal's suggestion that I should give in and get myself an ear-trumpet :)

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17629497

Re: Mind-controlled hearing aid allows the wearer to focus on particular voices

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post #6

Hearing enhancement for everyone is easy with current tech. But people won't do it because it looks like you're disabled. But once enough people do it, it'll no longer look that way and be cool like sunglasses. But they are not. So we don't. Strange world.

Highly unlikely, given that people don't gratuitously wear prescription sunglasses. And speaking as a hearing aid user, the problem is exactly that of the article: making things louder only helps when you're listening to a single person in fairly good background conditions. Actually selecting and amplifying a particular voice is much harder.

I don't agree and I think the original article severely underestimated top-end hearing aid technology. Newer hearing aids from top manufacturers like GN, Oticon and Phonak do a very good job of isolating a particular voice in noise - sure its still far from perfect but it light-years ahead of "making all things louder".

I have no doubt the suggested brain-powered hearing aids will be much better but models like Oticon's OPN have smart directionality and localisation features for picking out specifics in noise. Most models also allow you to control the direction of sound enhancement to improve things further - by default most will use a 360 degree, or at least 270 degree field of listening but with an app you can change them to have a very narrow field and target specifically the person directly in front of you.

I have a severe hearing loss and wear GN ReSound LiNX Quattro in both ears, without them I cannot hear anything useful, i.e. I hear no voice even when someone is directly in front of me and no background noise. With them I can hold a conversation in a fairly noisy pub, its hard work to listen in noise but they do an amazing job for me. Technology has moved way past the old analogue amplification that really did just make everything louder.

Re: Mind-controlled hearing aid allows the wearer to focus on particular voices

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Hearing enhancement for everyone is easy with current tech. But people won't do it because it looks like you're disabled. But once enough people do it, it'll no longer look that way and be cool like sunglasses. But they are not. So we don't. Strange world.

Counterpoint: AirPods are pretty “cool” and can serve as assistive hearing aids through Live Listen.

Its very interesting that people are prepared to wear "cool" AirPods but still shy away from hearing aids because they don't want to look old or disabled. Hearing aid manufacturers are starting to catch on and market aids more as lifestyle accessories rather than medical devices that fix a disability, which will help a lot. Also, aids are much smaller and sleeker now, they look pretty cool, the tide will turn eventually and more people will start to accept them - i'm not sure they will become as cool as glasses but they'll at least become acceptable.

BTW: the live listen on Apple devices is a nice feature but it nowhere near being a hearing aid.

Re: Mind-controlled hearing aid allows the wearer to focus on particular voices

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post #6

Hearing enhancement for everyone is easy with current tech. But people won't do it because it looks like you're disabled. But once enough people do it, it'll no longer look that way and be cool like sunglasses. But they are not. So we don't. Strange world.

Counterpoint: AirPods are pretty “cool” and can serve as assistive hearing aids through Live Listen.

I had no idea this was possible. Thanks, will give it a try.

Re: Mind-controlled hearing aid allows the wearer to focus on particular voices

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Amazing, and I need one of these! I damaged my hearing years ago (operating a stump grinder without protection. Doh!) I can hear things perfectly well in most environments, but a crowded room is terrible for me. I can be looking right at the person I'm talking to and won't be able to distinguish their voice from the background noise. I really hope these become widely commercialized. I'd like one.

A bluetooth-enabled hearing aid and a remote microphone would work well in this situation but only if there is one speaker to listen to as aids currently can only stream from one remote mic at a time.

And also only if you are happy to hand a clip-on mic for a friend to wear.

Re: Mind-controlled hearing aid allows the wearer to focus on particular voices

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Highly unlikely, given that people don't gratuitously wear prescription sunglasses. And speaking as a hearing aid user, the problem is exactly that of the article: making things louder only helps when you're listening to a single person in fairly good background conditions. Actually selecting and amplifying a particular voice is much harder.

I don't agree and I think the original article severely underestimated top-end hearing aid technology. Newer hearing aids from top manufacturers like GN, Oticon and Phonak do a very good job of isolating a particular voice in noise - sure its still far from perfect but it light-years ahead of "making all things louder". I have no doubt the suggested brain-powered hearing aids will be much better but models like Otico…

> I hear no voice even when someone is directly in front of me and no background noise. With them I can hold a conversation in a fairly noisy pub, its hard work to listen in noise but they do an amazing job for me.

What you describe doesn't sound anything like what the person you were responding to was describing. It sounds like you're saying

> I can't hear anything, but the hearing aid makes it so I can hear things AND distinguish voices from background noise.

which is totally different from

> I can hear everything around me just fine. I have problems distinguishing a single sound stream (voice) from all the other noise going on.

Personally, I can be watching TV in one room just fine, my wife turns the dishwasher on in another room, and I can't understand anything on the TV anymore.

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