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Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

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Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

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Post by Dolores12 »

joering2 wrote: post #79
dennisgorelik wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Today if you try to send a lot of emails from new IP address - most of these emails will go to spam folders (even if emails are legitimate). In order to send large numbers of emails from an IP address -- you need to gradually ramp up number of emails sent (and have low complaint rate and low bounce rate).

> In order to send large numbers of emails from an IP address -- you need to gradually ramp up number of emails sent As a spammer you would not go for dedicated IP; you would rather want to use a shared pool as pissing in a big pool plenty of people who hold their liquids to themselves will help your pee to be less visible and detectable. Here are samples of my spam box from this week so far, courtesy of Sparkpost (t…

Finding abuser is not hard, every message sent have customer id encoded in headers.

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Post by Spooky23 »

Johnny555 wrote: post #78
glenneroo wrote: post #57

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Would a propane tank pose any danger to occupants during/after an accident?

Proponents of propane as refrigerant claim that it's not more dangerous than the 10 gallons of gasoline in the gas tank. I'm not sure I agree. Since propane is heavier than air, it doesn't dissipate as quickly as, say, natural gas would. And while its true that you need the right mixture of propane and air for it to ignite, with the right-mixture, you've got a fuel-air explosive formed right next to an ignition sourc…

Safe until it leaks.

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Post by kebman »

paulmd wrote: post #80
codedokode wrote: post #58

20 years seems a little too much for the crime that doesn't involve violence. 2 or 3 years and a solid fine should be fair punishment in my opinion.

US prison sentences are ridiculously long in general. In principle the key word is supposed to be "up to", the judge is supposed to use their discretion. In practice , it's used as a lever to force plea deals. If you waste the government's time and money with a trial, you probably still won't win, but now you will be doing up to 20 years. Sign here and spare us the trial and you'll get 5 years. Of course then you hav…

American tax payers stand to save a lot of money by adopting the Scandinavian model for their prison system, particularly because of the use of much shorter sentences, and heavier use of fines (a lash to the pocket is often a far better deterrent than a long prison sentence). This opens up for better rehabilitation, and much less recidivism. In turn that means shorter queues which means a clear cut in the expenses needed to maintain all those prisons. In the end, it's a win-win for the state, tax payers and the prison inmates themselves. Only prison wardens would disapprove. ;)

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Post by oefrha »

GordonS wrote: post #45
freedomben wrote: post #36

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ICMP is blocked by default now in many firewall setups, so unless the admin specifically allows ICMP the packets will likely be dropped. Also, be careful as "host discovery" can be viewed as a type of "hacking" depending on who you are and who is watching/judging you.

Your first point is definitely correct. Your second point though... really? Do you have any sources for anyone, anywhere being charged for using ping?

Adding to sibling comments, some networks are extremely heavy-handed at self-regulating host discovery. Back when I was on AS88, I once got a warning alleging that I was performing suspicious port scans. I acquired a report of my “suspicious” activities from the admin, and turns out all I did was connecting to port 22 of some two dozen hosts I rented from a handful of VPS providers across North America and Europe. Of course the warning was dropped after my explanation, but I found it pretty crazy.

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Post by [deleted] »

daveFNbuck wrote: post #101
jlarocco wrote: post #95

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I think carbon taxes are the opposite of what the OP is talking about. Carbon taxes are artificial barriers to using fossil fuels. On the other hand, when technology improves so that electric cars cost less per mile than gasoline cars, people won't necessarily buy them to be green, they'll buy them because they're a cheaper form of transportation that happens to be greener. Same with wind and solar power. When a sola…

Carbon taxes aren't artificial barriers. There are real costs to emitting carbon. Putting a price on negative externalities helps align incentives properly so the people making the coal plant have to consider the full costs of their actions.

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Post by nathan_long »

jlarocco wrote: post #95
sundvor wrote: post #66

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Yet initiatives like Carbon tax have been shot down (Australia) by big money, putting dangerous delays into the schedule.

I think carbon taxes are the opposite of what the OP is talking about. Carbon taxes are artificial barriers to using fossil fuels. On the other hand, when technology improves so that electric cars cost less per mile than gasoline cars, people won't necessarily buy them to be green, they'll buy them because they're a cheaper form of transportation that happens to be greener. Same with wind and solar power. When a sola…

> Carbon taxes are artificial barriers to using fossil fuels.

> On the other hand, when technology improves so that electric cars cost less per mile than gasoline cars, people won't necessarily buy them to be green, they'll buy them because they're a cheaper form of transportation that happens to be greener.

Carbon taxes are like trash disposal fees. If your business dumps trash into the landfill or carbon into the atmosphere, the public should not have to subsidize your business by paying for that. You should pay to manage your own waste.

Gas cars are cheaper than electric at least partly because we're all subsidizing them by allowing them to dump waste for free into the air that we all own, and paying on their behalf for all the damages that causes (asthma, climate change, flooding, etc). A carbon tax would remove that subsidy and make fossil fuels compete on a level playing field.

And yes, once the subsidy is removed, the market can sort it out.

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Post by TranceMan »

johnr2 wrote: post #126
kebman wrote: post #118

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Cars are a red herring. Even gasoline and diesel car aren't really contributing that much to world pollution compared to the real culprits, such as ocean liners and huge cargo ships. These ships alone pollute more than all the cars on Earth. What do you think about going after the things that are actually harmful, instead of following a red herring? I mean, sure, cars should of course be dealt with also, but if you r…

> These ships alone pollute more than all the cars on Earth. Do you have a link to figures that show this?

I was intrigued - seems it could be because ships use heavy oil

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-the-15-biggest-ships-i...

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Post by SturgeonsLaw »

adrianN wrote: post #121
toper-centage wrote: post #112

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Can we do that with carbon? It's rare and valuable, let's try to contain it as much as possible! We're basically releasing TONS of what is basically black gold to the sky!!

Unfortunately coal is not rare and not very valuable and pricing in the massive externalities to make it so is "bad for jobs".

If carbon was placed under a cap and trade system, where it had a price, and entities which emit CO2 pay for that privilege, then that externality won't be so external, those who do the most damage pay the highest price, and those who can perform carbon capture and storage can realise a revenue stream.

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Post by zhte415 »

yason wrote: post #111
zhte415 wrote: post #97

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Henry Ford didn't actually say that, though it was in line with his thinking, perhaps. https://hbr.org/2011/08/henry-ford-never-said-the-fast

The article didn't say Ford didn't say the phrase but that there's no evidence Ford ever said that. So, the truth is (as with many historical things) that no one really knows the truth.

Stackexchange already did that line of thinking (and cite this article). Enlightening comments. https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/37637/did-henry...

Re: Close to 735k Fraudulently Obtained IP Addresses Uncovered and Revoked

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Post by daveFNbuck »

kebman wrote: post #117
daveFNbuck wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carbon taxes aren't artificial barriers. There are real costs to emitting carbon. Putting a price on negative externalities helps align incentives properly so the people making the coal plant have to consider the full costs of their actions.

Why not talk to the coal plant owner directly? Or how about the other 100(!) private citizens living around the world who control the companies that are responsible 70% of the greenhouse emissions of the entire Earth?

Talking to them doesn't change the economic incentives. No matter how stern of a talking to I give them, they'll still be making a large personal profit at the expense of a larger cost spread across everyone else.

Do you think no one has tried talking to any of these people about climate change yet?

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