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Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by wetpaws »

asdff wrote: post #136
Marsymars wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is actually the reason I stopped using Google Maps for most of my navigation. It used up most of my 5 gb monthly allotment over the timespan of a week of travel/driving. I typically only use ~500 mb of data per month otherwise.

You can download a local cache of the map data. I have my whole city saved and I think the app is around 500mb in size now.

A lot of places outside of US (like Tokyo for example) simply don't support offline caching mode, which makes google maps a real data hog when you travel.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by wetpaws »

djanogo wrote: post #84

I get down voted often for saying iPhone is cheaper, like the old man said, price is what you pay and value is what you buy. Android and Google are expensive.

It's only expensive if you want to pay extra for a status symbols. I have a 5500mah Android phone with a great screen and hardware that costed me around $150

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by Marsymars »

asdff wrote: post #136
Marsymars wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is actually the reason I stopped using Google Maps for most of my navigation. It used up most of my 5 gb monthly allotment over the timespan of a week of travel/driving. I typically only use ~500 mb of data per month otherwise.

You can download a local cache of the map data. I have my whole city saved and I think the app is around 500mb in size now.

Yes, that's what I've done for my home city, but it's not especially practical when travelling, when compared to other mapping apps that let you download entire countries' map data at once.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by djanogo »

wetpaws wrote: post #142
djanogo wrote: post #84

I get down voted often for saying iPhone is cheaper, like the old man said, price is what you pay and value is what you buy. Android and Google are expensive.

It's only expensive if you want to pay extra for a status symbols. I have a 5500mah Android phone with a great screen and hardware that costed me around $150

That's not at all what I am referring to. With Android you are basically carrying Google's (play services) remote monitoring device.

For $150 device (whichever company subsidized that device) you are the product.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by droidist2 »

asdff wrote: post #138
djanogo wrote: post #84

I get down voted often for saying iPhone is cheaper, like the old man said, price is what you pay and value is what you buy. Android and Google are expensive.

I got a 128gb SE for less than $250 shipped on ebay, graded at B condition but I couldn't find a scratch on it, not even by the ports (yes, plural :^) and the battery is at 95% health. Just as quick as an x in real world use, the screen repair is way cheaper, and I could stretch the battery life two days. I love the size too, the last one handed iPhone and I forget it's in my pocket.

I love the SE too, I really hope they release another small phone within the next year.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by wetpaws »

djanogo wrote: post #144
wetpaws wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's only expensive if you want to pay extra for a status symbols. I have a 5500mah Android phone with a great screen and hardware that costed me around $150

That's not at all what I am referring to. With Android you are basically carrying Google's (play services) remote monitoring device. For $150 device (whichever company subsidized that device) you are the product.

For the sake of argument, let me point out that you don't have to install google play services on Android device. (Unlike Apples's world, here you actually have a control over your phone)

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by 29083011397778 »

LordHeini wrote: post #111
koyote wrote: post #52

I'm already considering ditching the Gmail app as it displays ads at the top that look just like new e-mails (I was an Inbox user before); although I am not quite sure what app to switch to. Sadly there isn't really an alternative that even approaches Maps. There are a lot of 'ok' alternatives but Maps is just in an other league in terms of POI, Navigation and UI.

For mails i would highly recommend K-9 Mail. Using it for years now works really well. Has a bunch of Features like dark mode and what not. As for maps tough...

As someone who disabled GApps on my phone and uses only OSMAnd, I've found it acceptable for me, but know others would not be satisfied.

At least if/when I search and fail to find, I remember and add it later when I get to a desktop. Slowly, OSM should end up being able to serve my uses well enough, and hopefully others too.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by 29083011397778 »

asdff wrote: post #137
drenvuk wrote: post #75

Not gonna lie, I would rather just pay for google maps.

I would pay $1 a month, which would be exponentially more money google extracts from me than with ads I'll never engage with.

You're here; therefore, we can assume you're a high-value consumer to advertise to. When enough people take the $1/month option, advertisers will be primarily advertising to consumers with low purchasing power. As that happens, the cost of advertising on Google AdWords nosedives, and Google is left making substantially less money.

Maybe most people aren't like you and I. But I don't think anyone at Alphabet is willing to risk adding complexity to potentially earn less.

This ignores the potential fallout as the message can be distorted from "Optional payment for Google Maps" to "Google starts collecting money for Maps", and finally to "Google Maps costs $X".

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by millstone »

fjsolwmv wrote: post #60
dmix wrote: post #21

What would the default ads be on a search homepage considering there are no "keywords" to scope it to? I'd imagine non-targeted billboard-style ads by default with some targeting at the account level? Would it include retargeted ads? Edit: nevermind, it's not on a blank search page, it's embedded within some news-feed style UI, so it's probably just straightforward google mobile ads

Remember that on mobile by default google pushes the feed on the search page instead of leaving it blank. Desktop is spared the indignity, for now.

What is "the feed?" Feed of what?

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by m463 »

judge2020 wrote: post #69
m463 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"How much to route traffic off the interstate past my business?" on a serious note - the Telsa in-car mapping app uses google map tiles, and they are choosng what businesses show up with icons when you look at the map.

Does Tesla's system already show ads in place discovery/search results? I would imagine they have a "no ads" contract with Google.

define "ads"? If something doesn't have "special offer" popups or a slogan, yet bubbles to the top of search results...
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