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Re: Turo and Getaround Get Heat From the Rental Car Industry

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Post by sct202 »

kevin_b_er wrote: post #7
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #3

I certainly have no love list for the big rental car companies, but I don't see any logical reason why I should have to pay additional taxes and fees when renting from Hertz but not GetAround or Turo. The article didn't go into it that much, is the current issue that Turo is arguing that, as just a "platform", that hosts are the ones responsible for taxes and fees and they're just not collecting or paying them? Simil…

These companies are very much about externalizing the cost. They externalize cost onto the public for what is free pickup/dropoff of friends/family. They externalize the cost of maintenance and insurance onto the owners. They externalize the cost of public parking area to "store" the cars when not in use. What you most often are looking at is corporations exploiting benefits to the public for their profit.

There's a guy in my city who is apparently parking 40 turos by his house and using up a lot of the street parking to do it.

Re: Turo and Getaround Get Heat From the Rental Car Industry

#12

Post by capsulecorp »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #8

>(Turo takes a 25 percent cut on each transaction.) Let's at least stop using "sharing" to describe what these companies do.

No lets not, the term makes perfect sense how its being used. It has absolutely nothing to do with how much of a cut the business takes, not sure where you picked up that impression but its not correct.

Re: Turo and Getaround Get Heat From the Rental Car Industry

#13

Post by xvedejas »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #3

I certainly have no love list for the big rental car companies, but I don't see any logical reason why I should have to pay additional taxes and fees when renting from Hertz but not GetAround or Turo. The article didn't go into it that much, is the current issue that Turo is arguing that, as just a "platform", that hosts are the ones responsible for taxes and fees and they're just not collecting or paying them? Simil…

Why should you have to pay taxes for either? Why is renting a car something that should have extra penalties over owning one? As someone who doesn't own a car anymore (as a lifestyle choice) I'm now noticing many hidden things in the US which benefit car-owners to the detriment of the car-free.

Re: Turo and Getaround Get Heat From the Rental Car Industry

#14

Post by freewilly1040 »

sct202 wrote: post #11
kevin_b_er wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These companies are very much about externalizing the cost. They externalize cost onto the public for what is free pickup/dropoff of friends/family. They externalize the cost of maintenance and insurance onto the owners. They externalize the cost of public parking area to "store" the cars when not in use. What you most often are looking at is corporations exploiting benefits to the public for their profit.

There's a guy in my city who is apparently parking 40 turos by his house and using up a lot of the street parking to do it.

This is a flaw caused by unlimited free on street parking, a zoning flaw that needs to be fixed

Re: Turo and Getaround Get Heat From the Rental Car Industry

#15

Post by josephorjoe »

xvedejas wrote: post #13
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #3

I certainly have no love list for the big rental car companies, but I don't see any logical reason why I should have to pay additional taxes and fees when renting from Hertz but not GetAround or Turo. The article didn't go into it that much, is the current issue that Turo is arguing that, as just a "platform", that hosts are the ones responsible for taxes and fees and they're just not collecting or paying them? Simil…

Why should you have to pay taxes for either? Why is renting a car something that should have extra penalties over owning one? As someone who doesn't own a car anymore (as a lifestyle choice) I'm now noticing many hidden things in the US which benefit car-owners to the detriment of the car-free.

Completely agree. All the extra fees and hassle around car rentals are why I eventually bought a car, even though I really only need it sporadically -- mostly for vacations.

I think the taxes on rental cars are often a type of "tourist tax". Politicians seem to find it easy to approve taxes on people who can't vote in their reelection campaigns.

Re: Turo and Getaround Get Heat From the Rental Car Industry

#16

Post by kop316 »

josephorjoe wrote: post #15
xvedejas wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should you have to pay taxes for either? Why is renting a car something that should have extra penalties over owning one? As someone who doesn't own a car anymore (as a lifestyle choice) I'm now noticing many hidden things in the US which benefit car-owners to the detriment of the car-free.

Completely agree. All the extra fees and hassle around car rentals are why I eventually bought a car, even though I really only need it sporadically -- mostly for vacations. I think the taxes on rental cars are often a type of "tourist tax". Politicians seem to find it easy to approve taxes on people who can't vote in their reelection campaigns.

To provide a counterpoint, local taxes pay for a lot of local things. So why should a tourist benefit from a bunch of things that they did not pay for? A tourist tax is a way to make sure they are paying their share of it.

Re: Turo and Getaround Get Heat From the Rental Car Industry

#17

Post by m_samuel_l »

kop316 wrote: post #16
josephorjoe wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Completely agree. All the extra fees and hassle around car rentals are why I eventually bought a car, even though I really only need it sporadically -- mostly for vacations. I think the taxes on rental cars are often a type of "tourist tax". Politicians seem to find it easy to approve taxes on people who can't vote in their reelection campaigns.

To provide a counterpoint, local taxes pay for a lot of local things. So why should a tourist benefit from a bunch of things that they did not pay for? A tourist tax is a way to make sure they are paying their share of it.

Rental car tax applies to locals as well, though.

Re: Turo and Getaround Get Heat From the Rental Car Industry

#18

Post by chii »

kop316 wrote: post #16
josephorjoe wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Completely agree. All the extra fees and hassle around car rentals are why I eventually bought a car, even though I really only need it sporadically -- mostly for vacations. I think the taxes on rental cars are often a type of "tourist tax". Politicians seem to find it easy to approve taxes on people who can't vote in their reelection campaigns.

To provide a counterpoint, local taxes pay for a lot of local things. So why should a tourist benefit from a bunch of things that they did not pay for? A tourist tax is a way to make sure they are paying their share of it.

benefits like clean air and good roads don't cost more when a tourist arrives.

A tourist also pays taxes from VAT and other sources,but do not benefit from them. So it evens out I presume.

But tourist tend to generate economic activity. A benefit that locals would want more of. The taxes a tourist pay is disencentivizing.

Re: Turo and Getaround Get Heat From the Rental Car Industry

#19

Post by [deleted] »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #3

I certainly have no love list for the big rental car companies, but I don't see any logical reason why I should have to pay additional taxes and fees when renting from Hertz but not GetAround or Turo. The article didn't go into it that much, is the current issue that Turo is arguing that, as just a "platform", that hosts are the ones responsible for taxes and fees and they're just not collecting or paying them? Simil…

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Re: Turo and Getaround Get Heat From the Rental Car Industry

#20

Post by bherms »

chii wrote: post #18
kop316 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To provide a counterpoint, local taxes pay for a lot of local things. So why should a tourist benefit from a bunch of things that they did not pay for? A tourist tax is a way to make sure they are paying their share of it.

benefits like clean air and good roads don't cost more when a tourist arrives. A tourist also pays taxes from VAT and other sources,but do not benefit from them. So it evens out I presume. But tourist tend to generate economic activity. A benefit that locals would want more of. The taxes a tourist pay is disencentivizing.

I would argue that they actually do... More people coming in and using roads and moving around contribute to the deterioration of the roads and more pollution.
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