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ARIN doesn’t give you any rights to an IP, because there is no such thing.
I always wondered if someone had created a biz for the purpose of hoarding IPv4 with intent to “sell them”. We talked about this kind of abuse back in the 90s when I worked for a hosting company. Part of my job was filling out ARIN templates and SWIP and all that nonsense. Justification was easy, but it occurred to me how easy it would be to fake requests and just pay the trivial fees. There were already some busines…
It's not free money, of course -- it's entirely possible that the value goes down, as things that reduce the pressure on the IPv4 address space slowly come online (CGNAT and IPv6)
That said, I'm a bit confused by this story. ARIN ran out of addresses in 2015, and it was my impression that since then you can't just get IPv4 addresses for free from them, which is why the above-mentioned markets exist. So, how were they able to keep running this scam after 2015?
What is interesting to me is that you can’t really “revoke” an IP. ARIN’s authority really only comes from ISPs that listen to their recommendations in creating prefix filters. ARIN doesn’t give you any rights to an IP, because there is no such thing.
Also, it seems like the Microsoft/Nortel case established that there is some such thing as ownership rights over IPs.
What is interesting to me is that you can’t really “revoke” an IP. ARIN’s authority really only comes from ISPs that listen to their recommendations in creating prefix filters. ARIN doesn’t give you any rights to an IP, because there is no such thing.
I've often wondered how much of the IPv4 address space is legacy allocations that are not at all being fully utilized. Perhaps the market for IPv4 addresses has worked this out, and anyone that has such an allocation has cashed in.
I always wondered if someone had created a biz for the purpose of hoarding IPv4 with intent to “sell them”. We talked about this kind of abuse back in the 90s when I worked for a hosting company. Part of my job was filling out ARIN templates and SWIP and all that nonsense. Justification was easy, but it occurred to me how easy it would be to fake requests and just pay the trivial fees. There were already some busines…
There is an active, mature market for IPv4 addresses (just google "IPv4 address broker"), so it stands to reason that there are people hoarding them for speculation. It's not free money, of course -- it's entirely possible that the value goes down, as things that reduce the pressure on the IPv4 address space slowly come online (CGNAT and IPv6) That said, I'm a bit confused by this story. ARIN ran out of addresses in…
Is ARIN going to assign these to people who are waiting? I certainly haven't seen 2960 /24s being released. They have NOT announced anything like this. Maybe they will "transfer" them for $13 to $19 per IP with a third party facilitator?