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Google to push new ads on its apps

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Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

#121

Time to install a mobile browser with ad-blocking capabilities. Suggestions? I haven't used Firefox on my phone in years, but I remember it being slower than a snail

I installed Kiwi Broswer and have been super happy with it, a fork of Chrome with no tracking, ad-block and built in nightmode

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

#122

Time to install a mobile browser with ad-blocking capabilities. Suggestions? I haven't used Firefox on my phone in years, but I remember it being slower than a snail

Firefox on android works fine for me and supports all the extensions of their desktop browser.

I was a FF on android fan for year but wouldnt take the initial super long page loads anymore. The first webpage of the day was taking 10+ seconds to load, almost like it was fighting with DNS. I switched to Kiwi Browser and have been super happy. Fork of Chrome, lets you use any extension you want, no tracking and nightmode

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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> In Maps, ads will now appear [...] during navigation. Unless I'm missing something, distractions whilst navigating (and thus possibly driving) seems like it could be dangerous.

Waze started doing this and it’s annoying, but I’m already looking at waze so it’s typically when I’m stopped or during some other period where I think it’s safe to look at my phone while driving. I feel sorry for the advertisers as it’s dumb stuff like showing me an ad for “there’s a kfc nearby would you like to eat here” when I’m driving to a business meeting at 10am.

It's ridiculous on a smaller phone, on my SE these ads for fast food and gas takes up most of the screen. Also ironic considering waze is a pretty locked down app regarding preventing the driver from being distracted and fiddling with it on the fly. If I'm hungry I'll punch something in, and if I need gas I'll stop at any of the half dozen stations on the side of the road, not because of a waze ad. In fact I'll probably start subconsciously avoiding these places that are ruining my navigation experience.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

#124

> In Maps, ads will now appear [...] during navigation. Unless I'm missing something, distractions whilst navigating (and thus possibly driving) seems like it could be dangerous.

I'm betting this is going to appear the same way as it does on Waze, which shows fast food logos along your route, as well as popup ads whenever you're stopped. Annoying, but not intrusive enough to be considered a driving distraction, IMO.

IMO they are pretty distracting. When I'm stopped is when I glance at the screen to see my next move, and these popups persist for me when I start moving unless I close them. Pretty ironic considering waze is the most fussy navigation app regarding not letting the driver get distracted, unless it's profitable I guess!

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

#125
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Why would Google be desperate, though? They are hugely cash positive, have enormous cash reserves, and essentially no competition outside of China.

>no competition outside of China For now. Duck is growing and I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple build their own. Not to mention, the use of content blockers is rising.

For some years now I have the feeling Apple is investing in / helping DuckDuckGo. The most obvious indications are that DDG was added to the list of search engines in Safari, and DDG uses Apple Maps (example [1]). I bet Apple is using DDG to weaken Google while officially keeping a distance.

I also bet Apple is not interested in running a search engine themselves. They would either have to muddy their brand by allowing questionable results, or filter everything that is not family friendly and risk being seen as the big censor.

[1] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=silicon+valley%2C+usa+map&t=h_&ia=...

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

#126

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That makes it an unpaid ad.

Cynically, yes, but this is how humans follow directions anyway. Are your friends giving you an unpaid ad when they say "head down main st, past the Burger King"?

That's how you navigate if you had absolutely nothing to follow but word of mouth and need to remember every step, vs. a highlighted line on a map you just chug along without having to think more than a turn ahead, which you are reminded of anyway.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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"In Maps, ads will now appear in recommended search queries, on routing pages and during navigation " Ugh, this is sad and clever at same time - during navigation screen is on all the time and one usually glances at route from time to time even if it is just "straight ahead" for couple of kilometers. Moreover ad will be potentially visible to all passengers as well.

"How much to route traffic off the interstate past my business?" on a serious note - the Telsa in-car mapping app uses google map tiles, and they are choosng what businesses show up with icons when you look at the map.

It's pretty telling when you search "bar" or something in a given area and the most commercial places pop up with icons and names, obscuring a sea of minor red dots that are also in fact bars. And moving the map tiles doesn't automatically research either. Unless you thoroughly scrubbed an area, searching and researching for "bar" every half dozen blocks, you are only going to gleam a small % of the places in that area.

At least they haven't brought this corporatism to google earth desktop yet. I can pull up on the map every single bar and restaurant in Los Angeles in one search if I wanted to.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

#129
post #80

> In Maps, ads will now appear [...] during navigation. Unless I'm missing something, distractions whilst navigating (and thus possibly driving) seems like it could be dangerous.

Waze started doing this and it’s annoying, but I’m already looking at waze so it’s typically when I’m stopped or during some other period where I think it’s safe to look at my phone while driving. I feel sorry for the advertisers as it’s dumb stuff like showing me an ad for “there’s a kfc nearby would you like to eat here” when I’m driving to a business meeting at 10am.

Waze is a Google app.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Aaaaand none of that matters. Not many people enjoy sitting there, mapping stuff, so openstreetmap is not going to get any better without corporations contributing to it like they do with Linux kernel. Lawsuits doesn't matter much as well - with Google's power they can either: - Afford a settlement, bunch of them - Make the litigation to take long-long-long time - Lobby for some law to protect them. Nobody ain't gonn…

OSM has better data in certain aspects. The big problem with OSM is not about the data, but that it isn't designed to be used as a map. When someone visits osm.org, it is very barebones and the search feature doesn't work very well to find places unless you know the syntax. The team working on OSM themselves say that OSM is not a map, but instead a database. Anyway, Google would never have gotten the data that it has…

But there are very good mobile apps that use OSM data. In my experience, OSM data can be excellent in some areas, and dismal in others. So, literally, YMMV. Fortunately, OSM data is excellent where I live, so I use that.
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