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Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by prepend »

dmix wrote: post #21

What would the default ads be on a search homepage considering there are no "keywords" to scope it to? I'd imagine non-targeted billboard-style ads by default with some targeting at the account level? Would it include retargeted ads? Edit: nevermind, it's not on a blank search page, it's embedded within some news-feed style UI, so it's probably just straightforward google mobile ads

Since google tracks customers they can target a lot without keyword searches. I can imagine the homepage click price would be high for “pregnant women over 45 with an income over $100k” and stuff like that.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by p2t2p »

pizzazzaro wrote: post #50
stordoff wrote: post #48

> In Maps, ads will now appear [...] during navigation. Unless I'm missing something, distractions whilst navigating (and thus possibly driving) seems like it could be dangerous.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a threadwinner. Why has nobody else mentioned this? This is how google's gonna either get slapped with lawsuits, find that folks switch and make openstreetmap.org suddenly usable, or even both. Whoa.

Aaaaand none of that matters. Not many people enjoy sitting there, mapping stuff, so openstreetmap is not going to get any better without corporations contributing to it like they do with Linux kernel.

Lawsuits doesn't matter much as well - with Google's power they can either:

- Afford a settlement, bunch of them - Make the litigation to take long-long-long time - Lobby for some law to protect them.

Nobody ain't gonna switch to anymore. Folks that are ok with Apple maps are already using it and besides Apple maps there is no huge competitor. Here we Go maps are good for navigation but they don't know anything about business around you so good luck finding anything that you don't know precise address for.

Even folks on iPhones who use Apple Maps have Google Maps installed. For me it:

- I just drive around to a place I know about: Apple Maps - I need to find a place by name: Google Maps - I go to bush: Here we Go maps a maybe Google Maps because I can download them as well.

People need to realise that Google is unstoppable machine right now with _enormous_ resources and they can do almost whatever.

Recently EU slapped a "huge" fine on Google. So what? What happened? Has anything changed?

The real solution is for corporations who depend on navigation services is to pay people to contribute to openstreetmap like it happens with Linux kernel right now. Freedom for people, tool for business, all win.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by snazz »

ryanwhitney wrote: post #55
hellcow wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adding !s for startpage is a good option too. Google results without the tracking.

That's great, thanks. Didn't know about Startpage.

They often lag behind the Google and even DDG results by a while, so search anything time-sensitive first with DDG then with Google if you still can’t find it.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by snazz »

yumraj wrote: post #66
lotu wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cheapest iPhone (iPhone7) is selling for $449 new in the US. I'm not sure how cheap you are but this is reasonable compared to Android phones

That is definitely a good price point, and works for me, and I'm genuinely tempted. I'm waiting for the fall update to see if we're going to finally see the SE2.

You can get an iPhone 7 for a lot less than that too if you wait for a sale from a retailer like Best Buy or a cell carrier and not from Apple directly.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by snazz »

petschge wrote: post #40
JasonCEC wrote: post #33

Does anyone have suggestions for an Android based alternative to Google Maps? (preferably open source, etc)

I would suggest osmand. The basic version is free, you can download data state by state (country by country when you are traveling) so it doesn't need a data connection on the road (but online search is available if you do have a data connection). It does routing for cars / bikes / pedestrian and has decent turn-by-turn instructions that you can configure to your liking. The underlying data comes from OpenStreetMap (…

You can get the paid version for free if you download it from F-Droid.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by throwaway55554 »

stordoff wrote: post #48

> In Maps, ads will now appear [...] during navigation. Unless I'm missing something, distractions whilst navigating (and thus possibly driving) seems like it could be dangerous.

Well, good thing Apple maps is getting better. And there's also HERE Maps which is getting better.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by throwaway55554 »

djanogo wrote: post #84

I get down voted often for saying iPhone is cheaper, like the old man said, price is what you pay and value is what you buy. Android and Google are expensive.

I traded my 6S for an 8. Got the 8 for $399 after trade. That's pretty cheap for a great phone.

Re: Google to push new ads on its apps

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Post by exwiki »

prepend wrote: post #80
stordoff wrote: post #48

> In Maps, ads will now appear [...] during navigation. Unless I'm missing something, distractions whilst navigating (and thus possibly driving) seems like it could be dangerous.

Waze started doing this and it’s annoying, but I’m already looking at waze so it’s typically when I’m stopped or during some other period where I think it’s safe to look at my phone while driving. I feel sorry for the advertisers as it’s dumb stuff like showing me an ad for “there’s a kfc nearby would you like to eat here” when I’m driving to a business meeting at 10am.

While you are probably right that its dumb, this would have totally made me go to KFC on weekends when I half heartedly drive around to a destination.
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