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Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a Year

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Re: Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a Year

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Post by r00fus »

awinder wrote: post #147
burntoutcase wrote: post #2

While I'm glad that kids in Netflix-only households aren't getting bombarded with advertisements targeted at children the way kids my age were in the 1980s, I can't help but suspect that these ad-free kids need to be exposed to some advertising in an educational context so that they learn to recognize when somebody is trying to con them into buying shit they don't need and probably didn't want in the first place.

They learn / don't learn that skill from kidfluencers on YouTube. From what I've seen with my daughter that's a super-weaponized form of advertising compared to what I grew up in, anyone who survives Ryan and turns out halfway adjusted will have made it through a real crucible.

Yeah, my kids crave youtube, but I won't let them watch it.

Re: Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a Year

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Post by emp_ »

baddox wrote: post #279
vincnetas wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

São Paulo is the city without outdoor advertisements. Random link: https://99percentinvisible.org/article/clean-city-law-secret...

Seems odd to also remove what appear to be signs for retail businesses on the walls of the business itself, but maybe I’m interpreting the before and after images incorrectly.

Those are allowed but have limited dimensions, doesn't matter the size of your storefront you can only have a logo of a certain size, lots of loopholes like the McDonald's M or putting huge logos inside a glass wall but in general it is followed.

Re: Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a Year

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Post by dorgo »

la_barba wrote: post #153
switchbak wrote: post #100

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This reminded me of Elysium: but instead of the rich being the only ones able to receive quality health care, here they are the only ones able to afford a reprieve from these mind numbing ads. I would love to be able to eliminate all ads in my life. At the same time, doesn't this feel a little like the advertisers are extorting us for some $$? Lest they jam more ads down your throat.

> At the same time, doesn't this feel a little like the advertisers are extorting us for some $$? Lest they jam more ads down your throat. They wouldn't have succeeded in this extortion (online) if it wasn't for companies with billions of dollars hiring the smartest people in the world to enable advertisers to spy on people en-masse.

Rest assured that advertisement works with and without spying. Spying just improves efficiency somewhat.

Re: Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a Year

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Post by ceejayoz »

owlninja wrote: post #252
ceejayoz wrote: post #96

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> My kids have literally zero disposable income. They can ask to use yours , though, which is what most kid-targeted advertising looks to cause.

And you just say no?

Sure, you can, but most parents don't say no every time, and that means sometimes asking's going to pay off.

Some of the "kidfluencer" content out there is clearly aimed at giving kids talking points to bring to their parents. Before we banned YouTube from the house a few years back, I had a couple experiences where my kids would come and give me canned marketing copy - "it's fun and educational for the whole family!" sort of nonsense - they'd clearly cribbed off a video.

One specific example of this I can remember: "EvanTube". Started off cute and relatively non-commercial, but turned into very clearly paid marketing. https://www.fastcompany.com/3045807/meet-the-father-son-team...

Re: Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a Year

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Post by danielfoster »

nickelcitymario wrote: post #237
danielfoster wrote: post #206

This is great but if your child is watching so much Netflix that 400 hours worth of commercials are avoided, maybe your child is watching too much? Go play with Legos or do something interactive...

Well, are we assuming they're spending those 4 hours watching TV passively? Maybe they are. Or maybe they just like to have it on while they do other things. I know my own kids tend to have Netflix on all the time, but are also playing games, making art, talking to each other, doing chores, etc. I myself have it on for many hours a night, but I spend almost no time sitting in front of the screen. (Sundays have been a…

I didn't think about this, and what you stated describes me as a child-- I had some access to TV but preferred to do other things (namely Legos) while it was turned on.

But I have a very active mind. My fear is that many children will actively consume media rather than passively consume. A major part of the issue probably depends on how parents teach their children to watch TV. This issue needs more investigation because not all TV watching is the same. My fear is that not all parents are as mindful as you or mine.

Re: Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a Year

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Post by dorgo »

eswat wrote: post #268
antepodius wrote: post #158

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Get an adblocker!

Works for your devices. Doesn’t work for the outside world.

It took me years to train my brain to not read outdoor advertisement. I can't stop it from seeing/interpreting images, but I can successfully ignore text/letters which are less than a meter in size.

Re: Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a Year

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Post by dorgo »

ducttape12 wrote: post #128
anoncow wrote: post #65

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After subscribing to YouTube Premium, I had a similar revelation. Now if only we could have a google ad-free subscription which would turn off all google search and display network ads, our lives would be so much better! What if we could have cities outlaw advertising on billboards and instead collect a small tax to make up for the lost revenue, how much would our quality of life increase? That makes me wonder, if we…

If you're not a fan of blocking ads, DuckDuckGo let's you disable ads in their search results.

what is the difference between blocking and disabling? The result is the same, right?

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Post by nojvek »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #273
jak92 wrote: post #76

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> child play outside by themselves is essentially illegal. No it's not.

You're right, it's not illegal, but there's been a MASSIVE chilling effect on outside play. Of my daughter's friend group, she has by far the most freedom. She's got free reign over our neighborhood which has two parks, a school, a couple lakes, and even a small wooded area kids can venture off into. But none of her friends are allowed to play outside. One friend of hers, 12 years old, is not allowed to ride her bike…

Wow. Why can’t the kid spent a night out at her friends place ?

Re: Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a Year

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Post by r00fus »

makecheck wrote: post #181

People applaud the lack of commercials because of the advertising industry’s self-inflicted wound of making obnoxious ads. Ads didn’t have to try so hard to be WAY LOUDER THAN THE SHOW. They didn’t have to be trying to sell obviously-terrible things (“Get StupidDrugName! Side effects may include: death”). They didn’t have to subject you to 12 identical copies of the same commercial in one broadcast. They didn’t have…

> They got greedy, they made ads suck, now people have no use for them.

Many figured this was the logical conclusion, absent regulation.

Of course, the industry fought the concept of regulation or even self-regulation tooth and nail.

So here we are.

Re: Netflix Saves Kids from Up to 400 Hours of Commercials a Year

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Post by dorgo »

anoncow wrote: post #65
bargl wrote: post #10

Worth. Every. Penny. I went to my parents house with my son. He was 4. They turned on cartoons. Then he said, "Dad why'd you change the show? I don't want to watch this." It was a commercial. I had to explain commercials to my son. It was at that moment I realized how much of my tv watching as a kid was commercials.

After subscribing to YouTube Premium, I had a similar revelation. Now if only we could have a google ad-free subscription which would turn off all google search and display network ads, our lives would be so much better! What if we could have cities outlaw advertising on billboards and instead collect a small tax to make up for the lost revenue, how much would our quality of life increase? That makes me wonder, if we…

> what avenues would advertisers have left to sell products to us?

Maybe pay me some money for my attention? In exchange you get all the data from me: how much money I spend on X. How often I do Y. Whatever helps you sell your product to me. If you succeed and I like your ad or buy your product, the ad is for free. Otherwise you pay me some €/$/coins.

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