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Drugmakers hiked prices 1k% in price-fixing scheme, states allege

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Re: Drugmakers hiked prices 1k% in price-fixing scheme, states allege

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And put some people behind bars as well.

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Not sure if you are being serious or not.

Inflating or price-fixing medicine that is ESSENTIAL to human life is not moral. It causes people to die because they can't afford it.

To the common response of "they just need to save more" is not fair to ask. That's saying the generic you pay $30 is now $330.

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Not sure if you are being serious or not. Inflating or price-fixing medicine that is ESSENTIAL to human life is not moral. It causes people to die because they can't afford it. To the common response of "they just need to save more" is not fair to ask. That's saying the generic you pay $30 is now $330.

> Not sure if you are being serious or not.

/s indicates sarcasm.

Re: Drugmakers hiked prices 1k% in price-fixing scheme, states allege

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Submission statement of sorts: the NYT article for this was submitted twice in the last two days but got no attention; the pharmaceutical industry seems to be a topic of interest here (including some non-mainstream views on characters like Martin Shkreli), so I'm interested to see HN's take on this.

It’s important to note that this case is for generic drugs, not brand name drugs. The expensive drugs that make the news are generally the branded kind. Generic drugs are usually very cheap due to the level of competition. Interestingly, the US has some of the cheapest generic drug prices in the world due to the level of competition. I had read that for some generic companies, they make almost 100% of their profit by…

Can you please share where you read that "the US has some of the cheapest generic drug prices"?

My mom, who lives in a southeast asian country, came to visit me in the US last month and I asked her to buy generic antibiotics; ear drops; artificial tear drops; generic antihistamines; and they all are much cheaper than what I would have paid here (and are equally effective in a way that I've been weathering fine in this allergy season with these drugs). My significant other, who is from the same country as I, is a medical resident in the US and she still orders meds from her parents.

Re: Drugmakers hiked prices 1k% in price-fixing scheme, states allege

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Not sure if you are being serious or not. Inflating or price-fixing medicine that is ESSENTIAL to human life is not moral. It causes people to die because they can't afford it. To the common response of "they just need to save more" is not fair to ask. That's saying the generic you pay $30 is now $330.

> Inflating or price-fixing medicine that is ESSENTIAL to human life is not moral. It causes people to die because they can't afford it.

"Inflating" the price of something beyond the cost of production is how you make a profit. Pharma companies are not charities and there's no reason to expect them to not try to make a profit. The morality of charging money for health services is subjective.

Now "price-fixing" is a different ballpark altogether. That's specifically illegal and rightly so in a capitalistic system as competition is what we're counting on to reduce prices. If they created a cartel to inflate the prices of generics then the companies should be punitively fined and the responsible executives who should be prosecuted.

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It’s important to note that this case is for generic drugs, not brand name drugs. The expensive drugs that make the news are generally the branded kind. Generic drugs are usually very cheap due to the level of competition. Interestingly, the US has some of the cheapest generic drug prices in the world due to the level of competition. I had read that for some generic companies, they make almost 100% of their profit by…

It's surprising in light of the prevailing idea that markets enforce competition towards the lowest price. This idea forms the basis of the claim that market-driven healthcare benefits consumers by lowering costs.

it is a very elementary idea that applies to few real life markets. things are more complicated than what your learn in basic economics

Re: Drugmakers hiked prices 1k% in price-fixing scheme, states allege

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The whole industry needs to be nationalized, full stop, and the current people in charge need to all be in jail.

Yes, put this in the hands of the same bureaucrats that allow this sort of thing to happen without penalty in the first place. That sounds like a fantastic idea.
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