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South Korean students flock to Japan

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Re: South Korean students flock to Japan

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Post by theaustinseven »

baolongtrann wrote: post #4
thaumasiotes wrote: post #3

I don't get the "as birthrate sinks and unemployment climbs". It's not like Japan is doing well there. And Japan is infamous for its incredibly negative attitude towards Koreans...

Have to admit I am clueless about the history between these two. Why don't they like each other?

Japan invaded the Korean peninsula as well as a sizeable portion of China and enacted horribly cruel war crimes against the citizens of those places. I won't get into details, but this comment would be akin to asking "What's the history between the Germans and Jews? Why don't they like each other?". The primary difference being that Germany had a reckoning with the history of what happened during that time, while the Japanese Government has mostly denied that any of its war crimes even happened which never allowed tensions to drop as much as they may have in Europe.

Re: South Korean students flock to Japan

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Post by smartpants »

baolongtrann wrote: post #4
thaumasiotes wrote: post #3

I don't get the "as birthrate sinks and unemployment climbs". It's not like Japan is doing well there. And Japan is infamous for its incredibly negative attitude towards Koreans...

Have to admit I am clueless about the history between these two. Why don't they like each other?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule

Re: South Korean students flock to Japan

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Post by jpatokal »

baolongtrann wrote: post #4
thaumasiotes wrote: post #3

I don't get the "as birthrate sinks and unemployment climbs". It's not like Japan is doing well there. And Japan is infamous for its incredibly negative attitude towards Koreans...

Have to admit I am clueless about the history between these two. Why don't they like each other?

Historically, Korea was repeatedly invaded by Japan. More recently, Korea was a Japanese colony between 1910 and 1945, during which the Japanese ruled with an iron fist and did their best to destroy Korean identity by forcing people to take Japanese names etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Japan%E2%80%93Korea...

Re: South Korean students flock to Japan

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Post by [deleted] »

baolongtrann wrote: post #4
thaumasiotes wrote: post #3

I don't get the "as birthrate sinks and unemployment climbs". It's not like Japan is doing well there. And Japan is infamous for its incredibly negative attitude towards Koreans...

Have to admit I am clueless about the history between these two. Why don't they like each other?

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Re: South Korean students flock to Japan

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Post by xenihn »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #6
user982 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article notes that both statistics are even worse in South Korea than Japan.

That may be, but if those statistics are the problem, going to Japan is surely not the solution.

What's your alternative option?

Re: South Korean students flock to Japan

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Post by jpatokal »

theaustinseven wrote: post #11
baolongtrann wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have to admit I am clueless about the history between these two. Why don't they like each other?

Japan invaded the Korean peninsula as well as a sizeable portion of China and enacted horribly cruel war crimes against the citizens of those places. I won't get into details, but this comment would be akin to asking "What's the history between the Germans and Jews? Why don't they like each other?". The primary difference being that Germany had a reckoning with the history of what happened during that time, while the…

Actually, Japan has apologized repeatedly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements...

However, Japan has more than its fair share of far-right fruitcakes who deny everything, and in both Korea and China politicians have found Japan to be a convenient whipping boy whenever they need a distraction from domestic problems.

Re: South Korean students flock to Japan

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Post by nreilly »

TheOperator wrote: post #9
baolongtrann wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have to admit I am clueless about the history between these two. Why don't they like each other?

Well there was the whole Japan making Korean women into their sex slaves during WWII thing.

With the euphemism 'Comfort Women'.

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Post by thaumasiotes »

czr wrote: post #8
baolongtrann wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have to admit I am clueless about the history between these two. Why don't they like each other?

You may be interested in: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment_in_Kor... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule#Lega... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Korean_sentiment#In_Japan

A little older, but it's worth checking out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasions_of_Korea_(1... too.

Re: South Korean students flock to Japan

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Post by inferiorhuman »

jpatokal wrote: post #16
theaustinseven wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Japan invaded the Korean peninsula as well as a sizeable portion of China and enacted horribly cruel war crimes against the citizens of those places. I won't get into details, but this comment would be akin to asking "What's the history between the Germans and Jews? Why don't they like each other?". The primary difference being that Germany had a reckoning with the history of what happened during that time, while the…

Actually, Japan has apologized repeatedly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements... However, Japan has more than its fair share of far-right fruitcakes who deny everything, and in both Korea and China politicians have found Japan to be a convenient whipping boy whenever they need a distraction from domestic problems.

However, Japan has more than its fair share of far-right fruitcakes who deny everything

They elected a far right "fruitcake" to the post of prime minister.

Re: South Korean students flock to Japan

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Post by jonathanyc »

jpatokal wrote: post #16
theaustinseven wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Japan invaded the Korean peninsula as well as a sizeable portion of China and enacted horribly cruel war crimes against the citizens of those places. I won't get into details, but this comment would be akin to asking "What's the history between the Germans and Jews? Why don't they like each other?". The primary difference being that Germany had a reckoning with the history of what happened during that time, while the…

Actually, Japan has apologized repeatedly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements... However, Japan has more than its fair share of far-right fruitcakes who deny everything, and in both Korea and China politicians have found Japan to be a convenient whipping boy whenever they need a distraction from domestic problems.

The problem is that Japan has a history of doing things like this:

> In October 2006, Prime Minister Shinzō Abe's apology was followed on the same day by a group of 80 Japanese lawmakers' visit to the Yasukuni Shrine which enshrines more than 1,000 convicted war criminals.[57] Two years after the apology, Shinzo Abe also denied that the Imperial Japanese military had forced comfort women into sexual slavery during World War II .

This is from your link.

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