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Fun with Snapchat's Gender Swapping Filter

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Re: Fun with Snapchat's Gender Swapping Filter

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Physical gender stereotypes? The differences in physical appearance, like the shape of the bones in your face and the fact some people have penises and other people have vaginas, caused by activation of the SRY gene (the sex determinism gene), are not social constructs.

Re: Fun with Snapchat's Gender Swapping Filter

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> I have a friend who does drag. It's a lot of work! I'm excited for technology like this, because it will make it easier for makeup & drag artists to experiment with new ideas and identities cheaply and quickly. Similarly, I'm transgender and use those applications to come up with new ideas on how to make little changes to my appearance to feminize my features. Sometimes coming up with makeup ideas is hard since I l…

>Similarly, I'm transgender and use those applications to come up with new ideas on how to make little changes to my appearance to feminize my features. Do you ever feel like these applications are re-enforcing physical gender stereotypes? Like "you selected female, here is what females should look like." If gender is a social construct, tech like this is clearly maintaining that construct, yet nobody seems to have a…

Gender could be a benign or even beneficial social construct, if that’s what it is, it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a bad thing.

Re: Fun with Snapchat's Gender Swapping Filter

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Physical gender stereotypes? The differences in physical appearance, like the shape of the bones in your face and the fact some people have penises and other people have vaginas, caused by activation of the SRY gene (the sex determinism gene), are not social constructs.

Physical gender stereotypes are things like hair length/style, whether makeup is applied, eyebrow grooming etc--all things that these apps are doing. These are not determined by sex. They are physical gender stereotypes, and are social constructs. Apps like these are upholding those stereotypes.

I'll put it another way. If apps like these were framed with a right-wing narrative of "this is what men should look like" and "this is what women should look like," people would be furious. But that's exactly what these apps are implying right now yet I don't see anyone speaking out against them.

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Physical gender stereotypes? The differences in physical appearance, like the shape of the bones in your face and the fact some people have penises and other people have vaginas, caused by activation of the SRY gene (the sex determinism gene), are not social constructs.

The makeup and haircut applied by the filter are social constructs, though.

Re: Fun with Snapchat's Gender Swapping Filter

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Physical gender stereotypes? The differences in physical appearance, like the shape of the bones in your face and the fact some people have penises and other people have vaginas, caused by activation of the SRY gene (the sex determinism gene), are not social constructs.

Sex != Gender

Re: Fun with Snapchat's Gender Swapping Filter

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Are there other online Machine Learning apps out there for this? Or is Snap-Chat the only one? I remember back in the VRML/SecondLife heyday where you could pick an avatar that was another gender. I still do that. But the emphasis for voice chat in modern games and MMORPGs make it far more difficult. A low gruff voice does not bode well coming from a feminine avatar. Catches too many off guard.

There's software out there to dynamically change your voice on the fly.

Snapchat have filters that do that too.

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post #14

Physical gender stereotypes? The differences in physical appearance, like the shape of the bones in your face and the fact some people have penises and other people have vaginas, caused by activation of the SRY gene (the sex determinism gene), are not social constructs.

The makeup and haircut applied by the filter are social constructs, though.

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Re: Fun with Snapchat's Gender Swapping Filter

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> I have a friend who does drag. It's a lot of work! I'm excited for technology like this, because it will make it easier for makeup & drag artists to experiment with new ideas and identities cheaply and quickly. Similarly, I'm transgender and use those applications to come up with new ideas on how to make little changes to my appearance to feminize my features. Sometimes coming up with makeup ideas is hard since I l…

Isn't there also good to be had here, because it could normalize the concept of transgenderism, drag, etc.?
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