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Dr. Bronner’s soap brand became a touchstone of wellness culture

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Love the stuff. Buy one bottle and you can shower with it for months.

I used to love it, then I tried other soaps. It's insanely drying on my skin and god forbid you use it on your hair. I actually prefer detergents over soaps now(acidic pH, better skin). I appreciate the company though. They're good people.

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#32
post #27

The best advice I ever read for Dr. Bonnner’s was to buy one scent for the shower and a different one for the kitchen. As no-one wants their dishes to smell the same as their private parts.

You’re presumably washing your privates, with scented soap. If they still have an unpleasant odor after that....well...???

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#33

I think they did a fabulous job with the product label on their soap bottles. It looks like a super cramped newspaper / exam cheat sheet and is what caught my attention a few years ago at the grocery store amongst hundred of other soaps. I also love the peppermint smell and it lasts forever!

It seems to hearken back to the 20s or 30s? when everything you can say about a product was labeled on the product: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/32/cb/43/32cb43687e9d39e31466...

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#34
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's all-natural, organic, kosher, and vegan. Vegetable oil-based. They even say you can brush your teeth with it.

Unfortunately, none of those things imply that it is safe for wildlife in a mountain lake. Here's a good overview: https://grist.org/living/ask-umbra-is-it-ok-to-lather-up-in-...

I'm well aware of what phosphorus and surfectants of your average soap can do but Dr. Bronner's has none of that. Here's the entire ingredients list:

- Citric Acid

- Mentha Arvensis (flowering plant in the mint family)

- Organic Coconut Oil

- Organic Fair Deal Hemp Oil

- Organic Jojoba Oil

- Organic Olive Oil

- Organic Peppermint Oil

- Potassium Hydroxide (AKA Saltwater soap)

- Tocopherol (oils containing vitamin E)

- Water

Re: Dr. Bronner’s soap brand became a touchstone of wellness culture

#35
I've loved their products for decades. Nothing beats their peppermint toothpaste. For taste, anyway. Dentists tell me that I need fluoride, so I alternate.

But damn, that's some odd theology on the packages. His "All-One-God-Faith". But see Chapman (2016) Dr. Bronner’s "Magic Soaps" Religion: A Tikkun Olam Response to the Holocaust, the Atom Bomb, and the Cold War.[0]

> Abstract: This essay explores the historical and cultural context in which the late Emanuel Bronner began marketing Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps, a natural brand known for its unusual labels that promote an "All-One-God-Faith" solution for saving "spaceship Earth." An amalgamation of Judaism and American pluralism, Dr. Bronner's plan for world peace was a response to the anxieties caused by the Holocaust, the advent of atomic weaponry, and the ongoing Cold War. Although Dr. Bronner was an escapee from an insane asylum and came to be regarded as a kook, it should be recognized that he conformed to the behaviour of a prophet or holy fool. His message corresponds with tikkun olam, the Jewish vision of "repairing the world." Dr. Bronner’s natural soaps and the accompanying call for global harmony served as a purification ritual for the American counterculture youth of the 1960s and 1970s.

0) https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.3138/jrpc.25.2.287

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#36
post #10

The musings on the bottle are made from someone who’s really out there. Perhaps mentally ill. It’s expensive, I think $15 for a 32oz bottle. Lasted two weeks.

I have had a 4 ounce bottle last me 5 months of near daily showers. You should use max 3-4 drops for your whole body

Re: Dr. Bronner’s soap brand became a touchstone of wellness culture

#37
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, none of those things imply that it is safe for wildlife in a mountain lake. Here's a good overview: https://grist.org/living/ask-umbra-is-it-ok-to-lather-up-in-...

I'm well aware of what phosphorus and surfectants of your average soap can do but Dr. Bronner's has none of that. Here's the entire ingredients list: - Citric Acid - Mentha Arvensis (flowering plant in the mint family) - Organic Coconut Oil - Organic Fair Deal Hemp Oil - Organic Jojoba Oil - Organic Olive Oil - Organic Peppermint Oil - Potassium Hydroxide (AKA Saltwater soap) - Tocopherol (oils containing vitamin E)…

Some of those are toxic to fish and insects. The soap will still mess up the ecosystem in the lake if it doesn't have a good flow of water in and out of the lake.

Jojoba oil is roughly 12% Eugenol, which is used to euthanize fish (other cheaper Eugenol oils are typically used though). Peppermint Oil is a pesticide (specifically the Menthol). Those were the only 2 I looked up, I suspect several of the others would imbalance the ecosystem too.

Just because a product contains only natural ingredients that are safe for humans, doesn't mean its safe for use in small bodies of water.

Re: Dr. Bronner’s soap brand became a touchstone of wellness culture

#38
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, none of those things imply that it is safe for wildlife in a mountain lake. Here's a good overview: https://grist.org/living/ask-umbra-is-it-ok-to-lather-up-in-...

I'm well aware of what phosphorus and surfectants of your average soap can do but Dr. Bronner's has none of that. Here's the entire ingredients list: - Citric Acid - Mentha Arvensis (flowering plant in the mint family) - Organic Coconut Oil - Organic Fair Deal Hemp Oil - Organic Jojoba Oil - Organic Olive Oil - Organic Peppermint Oil - Potassium Hydroxide (AKA Saltwater soap) - Tocopherol (oils containing vitamin E)…

OK, when you mix that caustic potash (AKA Potassium Hydroxide) with vegetable fats, a chemical reaction called saponification occurs and you get surfactants. This is exactly how they made soap in the olden days.

Fish are extremely sensitive to surfactants, as their skin is covered with a thin protective fatty membrane that gets dissolved.

If you're still not convinced: go buy a goldfish, put a drop of this stuff in his bowl, and watch him die.

Re: Dr. Bronner’s soap brand became a touchstone of wellness culture

#39
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be washing up with soap in mountain lakes. Biodegradable doesn't mean it can't harm something before degrading. I find a rinse to be more than sufficient for most of my trail needs. If I need soap for some kind of washing I take some water out of the source and wash elsewhere.

It's all-natural, organic, kosher, and vegan. Vegetable oil-based. They even say you can brush your teeth with it.

> It's all-natural, organic, kosher, and vegan. Vegetable oil-based.

None of those things means it's safe to put into a body of water. Leave no trace.

Re: Dr. Bronner’s soap brand became a touchstone of wellness culture

#40
post #10

The musings on the bottle are made from someone who’s really out there. Perhaps mentally ill. It’s expensive, I think $15 for a 32oz bottle. Lasted two weeks.

At first I was offput by the text on the bottles as well, but I've come to appreciate the uniqueness and it is mostly just about God and love. No more different than your typical Christian. Plus, they make really great soap.
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