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Pulse is hiring web and iOS engineers

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Re: Pulse is hiring web and iOS engineers

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Post by jonhendry »

kenjackson wrote: post #7
rubyrescue wrote: post #5

nice ageism - italics theirs... "You're working around highly energetic, incredibly passionate, young people - our average age is 25."

Yeah, I loved the ageism too. Honestly, reminds me a sweatshop. A place where they hire young mediocre devs and just burns through them. You can pay them less, but get them to work exceptionally hard. I can't think of a job ad that has made me not want to work at a company as much as this one has, in a long time.

"half a block to delicious Indian food, a block to Sprout salads and two blocks to Venezuelan coffee"

..and you'd better be happy with them, because you'll work so much you won't see anything else.

(And no pancake breakfast?)

Re: Pulse is hiring web and iOS engineers

#12

Post by jessk_0 »

kenjackson wrote: post #7
rubyrescue wrote: post #5

nice ageism - italics theirs... "You're working around highly energetic, incredibly passionate, young people - our average age is 25."

Yeah, I loved the ageism too. Honestly, reminds me a sweatshop. A place where they hire young mediocre devs and just burns through them. You can pay them less, but get them to work exceptionally hard. I can't think of a job ad that has made me not want to work at a company as much as this one has, in a long time.

It looks like their team is a bunch of a stanford MS grads and phds, so probably not mediocre. http://www.alphonsolabs.com/team

Re: Pulse is hiring web and iOS engineers

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Post by kenjackson »

jessk_0 wrote: post #12
kenjackson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I loved the ageism too. Honestly, reminds me a sweatshop. A place where they hire young mediocre devs and just burns through them. You can pay them less, but get them to work exceptionally hard. I can't think of a job ad that has made me not want to work at a company as much as this one has, in a long time.

It looks like their team is a bunch of a stanford MS grads and phds, so probably not mediocre. http://www.alphonsolabs.com/team

I'm sure the executive team will be grads from top-tier schools with good GPAs. But they're not interested in hiring people with the credentials they've achieved themselves, or people who might know better. They're looking for cheap hardworking undifferentiated labor -- at least that's my takeaway from the ad.

Re: Pulse is hiring web and iOS engineers

#15

Post by maxawaytoolong »

kenjackson wrote: post #7
rubyrescue wrote: post #5

nice ageism - italics theirs... "You're working around highly energetic, incredibly passionate, young people - our average age is 25."

Yeah, I loved the ageism too. Honestly, reminds me a sweatshop. A place where they hire young mediocre devs and just burns through them. You can pay them less, but get them to work exceptionally hard. I can't think of a job ad that has made me not want to work at a company as much as this one has, in a long time.

Mentioning the average age is useful information. I read it more like a warning than discrimination. Now that I'm old, I don't want to be around 25 year olds, unless they are also attractive women.

Re: Pulse is hiring web and iOS engineers

#16

Post by ams6110 »

acangiano wrote: post #10

Ageism in tech is rampant. If you replace age with race, it will become immediately obvious why this is discriminatory: > You're working around highly energetic, incredibly passionate, white people - almost everyone in our team has European roots. Doesn't sound so good, does it? That said, it's probably an oversight and they didn't mean it in a malicious way.

I would agree that it's likely not malicious, but it was a telling mistake.

And it's been removed from the page now.

Re: Pulse is hiring web and iOS engineers

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Post by jonknee »

sudont wrote: post #8
kenjackson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I loved the ageism too. Honestly, reminds me a sweatshop. A place where they hire young mediocre devs and just burns through them. You can pay them less, but get them to work exceptionally hard. I can't think of a job ad that has made me not want to work at a company as much as this one has, in a long time.

It's possible that "young" is a euphemism for a lifestyle that's either party-centric or bohemian. However, since I've worked with shops that actually are bohemian, age really doesn't matter. 45-year old hippies, dads that occasionally winter in France. Pulse's about page really does look very young; maybe a warning to those looking for more traditional workplace ideology. Like you said, it probably means sweatshop.

It's no euphemism when they went on and added that the average age is 25.

Re: Pulse is hiring web and iOS engineers

#18

Post by jonknee »

maxawaytoolong wrote: post #15
kenjackson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I loved the ageism too. Honestly, reminds me a sweatshop. A place where they hire young mediocre devs and just burns through them. You can pay them less, but get them to work exceptionally hard. I can't think of a job ad that has made me not want to work at a company as much as this one has, in a long time.

Mentioning the average age is useful information. I read it more like a warning than discrimination. Now that I'm old, I don't want to be around 25 year olds, unless they are also attractive women.

Maybe they should have noted the average attractiveness and current relationship status of the staff as well?

Re: Pulse is hiring web and iOS engineers

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Post by maxawaytoolong »

jonknee wrote: post #18
maxawaytoolong wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mentioning the average age is useful information. I read it more like a warning than discrimination. Now that I'm old, I don't want to be around 25 year olds, unless they are also attractive women.

Maybe they should have noted the average attractiveness and current relationship status of the staff as well?

One can safely assume that any given tech startup is 95% unattractive males.

Re: Pulse is hiring web and iOS engineers

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Post by dasil003 »

maxawaytoolong wrote: post #15
kenjackson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I loved the ageism too. Honestly, reminds me a sweatshop. A place where they hire young mediocre devs and just burns through them. You can pay them less, but get them to work exceptionally hard. I can't think of a job ad that has made me not want to work at a company as much as this one has, in a long time.

Mentioning the average age is useful information. I read it more like a warning than discrimination. Now that I'm old, I don't want to be around 25 year olds, unless they are also attractive women.

As a former-25-year-old-man I'm offended by your sexism.
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