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AirPods Are a Tragedy

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Re: AirPods Are a Tragedy

#21

Post by wodenokoto »

sebazzz wrote: post #14
zoul wrote: post #6

Jesus, that’s a really bad article, spinning some truths, irrelevant info and memes into hate. Most of what’s written applies to all wireless headphones, wired headphones or even other consumer electronics. Also, Apple has a recycling program. Would it be too much journalism to say why it doesn’t change the situation? If they managed to recycle most of the AirPods, then I’m mostly happy with the product, and it’s ent…

> Most of what’s written applies to all wireless headphones All? My Sennheiser Urbanite XL has screws hidden behind the removable ear pads, I'm pretty sure the battery is easily replaced. Except it doesn't have to be replaced yet.

As if they are even remotely the same size.

Re: AirPods Are a Tragedy

#22

Post by rudiv »

wodenokoto wrote: post #21
sebazzz wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most of what’s written applies to all wireless headphones All? My Sennheiser Urbanite XL has screws hidden behind the removable ear pads, I'm pretty sure the battery is easily replaced. Except it doesn't have to be replaced yet.

As if they are even remotely the same size.

My Jabra 65t's can have their batteries replaced. Happy?

Re: AirPods Are a Tragedy

#23

Post by hsbaut76 »

zoul wrote: post #6

Jesus, that’s a really bad article, spinning some truths, irrelevant info and memes into hate. Most of what’s written applies to all wireless headphones, wired headphones or even other consumer electronics. Also, Apple has a recycling program. Would it be too much journalism to say why it doesn’t change the situation? If they managed to recycle most of the AirPods, then I’m mostly happy with the product, and it’s ent…

It's an entertaining article and it's not trying to be deceptive about that fact.

Apple should be held to the highest standard, considering they are the world's richest and most successful company.

Frankly, Apple disgusts me

Re: AirPods Are a Tragedy

#24

Post by krustyburger »

hsbaut76 wrote: post #23
zoul wrote: post #6

Jesus, that’s a really bad article, spinning some truths, irrelevant info and memes into hate. Most of what’s written applies to all wireless headphones, wired headphones or even other consumer electronics. Also, Apple has a recycling program. Would it be too much journalism to say why it doesn’t change the situation? If they managed to recycle most of the AirPods, then I’m mostly happy with the product, and it’s ent…

It's an entertaining article and it's not trying to be deceptive about that fact. Apple should be held to the highest standard, considering they are the world's richest and most successful company. Frankly, Apple disgusts me

When consumers decide that Apple products are no longer worth a significant premium for their design, their ease of use and the company’s acknowledgement of the existence of such a thing as user privacy (and I sincerely doubt this will happen for a very long time, if ever), they will stop selling so many products and their market share will shrink and so will their market capitalization.

As someone who dislikes Apple, you’ll be pleased to know that their stock price could go all the way back down to levels as low as the ones that obtained before Steve Jobs returned as CEO. In fact, their shares could hypothetically go all the way to zero as the company failed completely.

Even in this preposterous (and tremendously implausible) scenario, Apple would be a company that failed as it tried to sell physical products and continued to go to battle for the privacy rights of its users.

And this is the company that disgusts you? Not the ones who profit by using dark patterns to monetize every misbehavior and bad habit of their users?

Re: AirPods Are a Tragedy

#25

Post by KozmoNau7 »

askafriend wrote: post #18
dngray wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> hands-free phone calls and indulge in music on the go without having to lug another large device around You've pretty much described any ear-bud/canal earphone. The point is there's choices that have removable batteries, and aren't so wasteful. 18 months is a pathetic lifetime.

The UX of AirPods are just superior to anything that exists currently. I can't use anything else after using them. Especially on the go. I have expensive over ear headphones for use at my desk and I still sometimes use AirPods because they're so lightweight and I don't feel them in my ear at all.

Use a set of wired earbuds with a mic+remote. Done.

All of the same functionality, without the hassle of recharging, and much less risk of dropping one and losing it. And less expensive, to boot.

The only "downside" is that they don't signal conspicuous consumption like the airpods do.

Re: AirPods Are a Tragedy

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Post by scarface74 »

sebazzz wrote: post #16
dngray wrote: post #4

I see so many teenagers these days with those things in their ears. It makes me facepalm every time I see it. Makes me feel good that I got such a good deal on my Audio-Technica ATH-IM04s. They were normally $700 US but now they are end-of-life I got a new pair for only $391 US. win. The retailer was trying to get rid of them as they were end-of-life stock.

A few years ago "everyone" was using Beats headphones, and those weren't offering world quality audio either. Nowadays I almost never see them, and are, as you state, replaced by AirPods. We live in a hype-driven consumption society.

Well,

Apple has 24% market share of headphones in the US between their own brand and Beats.

Re: AirPods Are a Tragedy

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Post by wayneftw »

zoul wrote: post #6

Jesus, that’s a really bad article, spinning some truths, irrelevant info and memes into hate. Most of what’s written applies to all wireless headphones, wired headphones or even other consumer electronics. Also, Apple has a recycling program. Would it be too much journalism to say why it doesn’t change the situation? If they managed to recycle most of the AirPods, then I’m mostly happy with the product, and it’s ent…

> Jesus, that’s a really bad article, spinning some truths, irrelevant info and memes into hate.

Such a strong statement! I look forward to the rest of your comment wherein you detail these "irrelevant infos and memes" and "hate".

> Most of what’s written applies to all wireless headphones, wired headphones or even other consumer electronics.

So after complaining about "irrelevant info and memes" you're leading with whataboutism? Where's your evidence for your initial statement?

> Also, Apple has a recycling program.

Big whoop. So does Best Buy, Walmart and Target. That doesn't change the fact that wired headphones could last 20 years whereas the ones Apple now pushes could never ever last that long.

> Would it be too much journalism to say why it doesn’t change the situation?

Would it be too much to ask for you to support your initial statements with some actual evidence? Anyway, I thought it was obvious that a recycling program wouldn't change the situation.

> If they managed to recycle most of the AirPods, then I’m mostly happy with the product, and it’s entirely my fault if it ends up on a landfill.

So, it's your fault that Apple sells overpriced crap that sounds bad and and has to be recycled after a year of usage, but they market it really well so that people that are naturally susceptible to such types of marketing are forced to buy it as a status symbol? I don't think so. Seems like a societal/biological issue.

> True, I would wish the headphones to be more repairable, but there’s a big difference between designing a repairable washing machine and repairable wireless headphones. The design constraints are pretty tight I imagine.

Headphone jacks worked great since forever. What ever happened to those? I guess you blame Vice for marketing a worse replacement and engineering it to look like a better option by removing headphone jacks?

> Writing such hateful and poor quality articles is not going to improve anything.

I feel like your analysis is severely lacking here. Frankly, the more people who know about the overpriced, overhyped garbage that Apple sells, the better.

Re: AirPods Are a Tragedy

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Post by hsbaut76 »

krustyburger wrote: post #24
hsbaut76 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an entertaining article and it's not trying to be deceptive about that fact. Apple should be held to the highest standard, considering they are the world's richest and most successful company. Frankly, Apple disgusts me

When consumers decide that Apple products are no longer worth a significant premium for their design, their ease of use and the company’s acknowledgement of the existence of such a thing as user privacy (and I sincerely doubt this will happen for a very long time, if ever), they will stop selling so many products and their market share will shrink and so will their market capitalization. As someone who dislikes Apple…

Oh please, Apple is a hardware company and that's why their profits don't require the exploitation of user data, otherwise they would be doing it. I mean, they exploit the natural resources of the planet and 3rd world slaves to make completely unserviceable devices ridden with planned obsolescence, so why wouldn't they exploit your user data if they needed to?

I'm not saying that other tech companies are any better, I'm saying that Apple, being the richest and most successful, should be pioneering change in the tech sector on all fronts, but most importantly social and environmental.

Re: AirPods Are a Tragedy

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Post by askafriend »

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #25
askafriend wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UX of AirPods are just superior to anything that exists currently. I can't use anything else after using them. Especially on the go. I have expensive over ear headphones for use at my desk and I still sometimes use AirPods because they're so lightweight and I don't feel them in my ear at all.

Use a set of wired earbuds with a mic+remote. Done. All of the same functionality, without the hassle of recharging, and much less risk of dropping one and losing it. And less expensive, to boot. The only "downside" is that they don't signal conspicuous consumption like the airpods do.

I don't think you quite understand just how big of a difference not having wires makes. It makes ALL the difference. It's a complete game changer in the gym.

And the UX of AirPods is such that I never think about charging. EVER. It's as if it has unlimited battery.

AirPods have ruined every other pair of headphones for me in the context of casual listening. For more dedicated "ok let me sit down and really listen" type sessions, I'll still grab my Sennheisers, Fidelios, or Sonys. But more and more, I just can't be bothered to break out the big, expensive sets even if the sound quality is better.

I hate the "you're going to lose it" argument. You can lose anything - including your phone, or wallet. I haven't lost my AirPods in 2 years and if I lost them, I'd immediately re-buy a pair.

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