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Re: GitLab Strategy

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Why do people contribute to Gitlab and help a for profit company for free? I'm curious about what motivates you such as improving a tool that you use everyday or code quality?

You contribute something you need. The deal is that you benefit from the change yourself. Upstream gets your change for free, but will (hopefully) continue maintaining it. (If they don't take the feature in it doesn't matter they got it for free ...)

Re: GitLab Strategy

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I feel bad for GitLab. It's better than GitHub in almost every way. And yet GitHub is more popular both in open-source and enterprise. And in enterprise we are usually left with unholy combination of GitHub and JIRA because GitHub project management is a joke and they haven't done anything useful in that space for years. But for some reason pushing for anything other than GitHub is always an uphill battle. And the we…

I am not a GitLab user, so I'm not speaking from personal experience, but I've read more than a few comments here on HN that GitLab stability and performance is worse than GH. For a mission critical system like source control, stability and performance are more important than any other features.

I asked about this in the Github thread, and it at least seems that Gitlab has minor issues but not the complete downtime that Github tends to have.

Re: GitLab Strategy

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The linked strategy page says they are aiming for a liquidity event by 2020.

Of any tech company, GitLab seems like the most ripe for a conversion to an ESOP, which is often accompanied by a liquidity event for early investors. GitLab seem to be already operating as an employee-centered business, so from the outside looking in, conversion to an ESOP might be quite compatible with their existing culture.

EDIT: When you convert to an ESOP, you often work with an investment bank (such as https://www.awcfund.com/). As I understand, the investment bank provides a loan to a new tax-exempt foundation, which uses the cash to buy the stock from early investors; this foundation then repays the investment bank from revenue. These sorts of investors specialize in ESOP deals and they see the foundation which owns them money as less risky investments since ESOPs can grow faster than similar public for-profit companies since: (a) they are employee owned, and (b) because of the ESOP's tax-exempt status.

Re: GitLab Strategy

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Funnily enough paying their employees somewhat competitive market rate still isn’t on there.

What rate do you think is off? For example our rate for an intermediate developer in San Francisco is $160k a year and options. See https://about.gitlab.com/job-families/engineering/backend-en...

If you mean we pay local rates please see https://about.gitlab.com/2019/02/28/why-we-pay-local-rates/

Re: GitLab Strategy

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I imagine that the on-prem and public versions are completely different beasts to operate. It's quite the engineering feat that they reached the current scale with the same codebase! I believe maintaining one shared codebase will be expensive in the long run: locally you want simplicity, SaaS you want scalability, micro-services and all that.

GitLab now consists of 31 different services https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/development/architecture.html#com...

This allows us to scale GitLab.com and with our Unix packages and Charts it is still easy to install.

Re: GitLab Strategy

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The linked strategy page says they are aiming for a liquidity event by 2020. Of any tech company, GitLab seems like the most ripe for a conversion to an ESOP, which is often accompanied by a liquidity event for early investors. GitLab seem to be already operating as an employee-centered business, so from the outside looking in, conversion to an ESOP might be quite compatible with their existing culture. EDIT: When yo…

I don’t understand how this would work. Investors own the majority of Gitlab. Wouldn’t becoming a public company in 2020 be a much better return for them that making it employee owned?

Re: GitLab Strategy

#39
post #24

I feel bad for GitLab. It's better than GitHub in almost every way. And yet GitHub is more popular both in open-source and enterprise. And in enterprise we are usually left with unholy combination of GitHub and JIRA because GitHub project management is a joke and they haven't done anything useful in that space for years. But for some reason pushing for anything other than GitHub is always an uphill battle. And the we…

Last time I tried switching to it it was slow as molasses on the command line. Easily several times slower than GitHub. So I went back to GitHub. I still have a GitLab account, but I only keep my dotfiles there. I keep hearing they've improved performance, and maybe they did, but that's also what I heard last time I tried it, so now I'm kind of reluctant to give it another try. Unlike before, now it doesn't just have…

self-hosted on a $40 digital ocean droplet performance is practically speaking indistinguishable from Github.

No idea what gitlab.com is like, we picked gitlab because we could self-host.

Re: GitLab Strategy

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post #29
post #13

> In CY2015 we became the most popular on-premises software development lifecycle solution [citation needed]

What other on premise lifecycle development solutions are there?

IBM, Atlassian, CA, GitHub, Microsoft, Micro Focus, Perforce, to name a few. Even if you believe GitLab's 100,000 number, Atlassian claims more than that and they're a public company so less likely to fudge the numbers.
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